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To: Leaning Right

The Confederates were literally traitors to their country. Konev wasn’t a traitor.


20 posted on 09/12/2019 3:16:20 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

“The Confederates were literally traitors to their country.”

Whatever.

“Konev wasn’t a traitor.”

Nope. Just a willing agent of a government that murdered 25-30 million of its own citizens. That makes him much better.

Right?

L


24 posted on 09/12/2019 3:59:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Alter Kaker
The Confederates were literally traitors to their country. Konev wasn’t a traitor.

Regardless, Konev was NOT a liberator.

32 posted on 09/12/2019 6:48:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Liberals - anathema to a free thinking society.)
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To: Alter Kaker

“The Confederates were literally traitors to their country. Konev wasn’t a traitor.”

The Confederates were no more traitors than the Founders.

The Declaration of Independence asserts the right of a people to determine for themselves what forms of government they wish and to alter or abolish existing forms as they see fit.

Independence is said to have had the support of 30% of the population at best.

Secession was voted on in all the Southern states, on average 90% of white Southerners had the franchise.

Secession was passed and ratified by popularly elected assemblies.

Obviously Southern blacks had no voice in the process.

On the other hand they generally had no vote in the North either.

Whatever the wisdom of secession and regardless of the evil slavery represented, secession was not treason, no federal court ever held it to be so.

As regards Marshal Konev, he may not have been a traitor, but he was certainly a war criminal, boasting to Yugoslav communist historian Milovan Djilas of the mass murder of German POWs.

He was a communist and an oppressor of the Czech and Hungarian peoples as well.


43 posted on 03/30/2020 12:15:23 PM PDT by skepsel (I miss William F. Buckley and the old Firing Line)
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