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To: PGalt; ammodotcom; PGR88

The trigger for 9/11 was the Bush senior stupid Gulf War 1

There was no need for Gulf war 1

1. Saddam was a secular monster - he threatened the Shia Ayatollahs in Iran and kept them at bay
2. The Sunni jihadis hated him as well and conspired against him
3. He blackmailed the Kuwaitis, Saudis and Qataris to give him money - money that in his absence was used to fund madrassas to spread Wahabbi jihadiism

If no GW 1 then

1. No American troops dying in GW1
2. No billion$ spent on Iraq in 1990 - today
3. No American troops on Saudi soil - this was declared a trigger point by Osama bin Laden (that infidel soldiers were on the “holy soil” of Saudia)
4. No USS Cole, WTC attack - the jihadis would focus on their Arab secular foes like Saddam and Assad
5. No 9/11
6. No strengthened Iran - rather Saddam would use the money from the Sauds to fight the Iranians again and crush them, grabbing land in the south oil
7. No Islamic State
8. No Taliban in Afghanistan
9. No money for Pakistan to create their Islamic nuclear bomb
10. No millions of Christians killed across the middle east
11. No depletion of Christians in Iraq from 2 million to 200K
12. No destruction of Palmyra
13. No sex slavery of Yazidis.

9/11 was the outcome of the trigger that was Gulf War one


16 posted on 09/12/2019 1:31:22 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

Good post. Thanks. BUMP!


17 posted on 09/12/2019 2:55:42 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Cronos; PGalt; gaijin; PGR88; Robert DeLong; Lurkinanloomin
Thanks for all the feedback here folks. We made edits to our guide on-site based on what y'all wrote. Plus we added a new section, The Western Way of War:

While the United States undertook a prompt response – the invasion of Afghanistan – it did not undertake the same measures as it did for the purpose of winning World War II (namely overwhelming and overly destructive force). There were, of course, the two atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but also overwhelming destructive force throughout the war in the form of carpet bombings, flame throwing tanks, and picket destroyers. The carnage of Okinawa fundamentally changed how the West viewed war, particularly against the fanatical Japanese.

Gen. Curtis Lemay was an architect of this strategy and advocated it not only in Korea (where it was not used), but also Vietnam, where his advocacy of keeping the nuclear option open is often cited as one of the things that destroyed the 1968 presidential campaign of George Wallace – for whom Lemay was the vice presidential candidate. The idea was that overwhelming destructive force led to fewer casualties for the Allies. Here, Gen. Lemay discusses the concept with regard to the Korean War:

“What I’m trying to say is, once you make a decision to use military force to solve your problem – then you ought to use it. And use an overwhelming military force. Use too much. And deliberately use too much. So that you don’t make an error on the other side, and not quite have enough. And you roll over everything to start with. And you close it down just like that. You save resources. You save lives. Not only your own but the enemies too. And the recovery is quicker. And everybody is back to peaceful existence – hopefully in a shorter period of time.”

America spends billions of dollars developing highly destructive military technology. But since World War II, it has failed to deploy this in the defense of its citizenry.

19 posted on 09/15/2019 7:35:00 AM PDT by ammodotcom
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