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To: cuban leaf

“But if a guy walks into a barber shop and starts rambling on and on about politics, or using bad language, does the owner not have a right to boot him out if he doesn’t shut up?”

Sure. The guy is creating a public disturbance with his speech.

I’m not sure about violating the guys free speech rights there, but I’m sure the barber’s private property rights don’t trump the guys free speech rights to say “No” if the barber makes a sexual advance toward him. The barber may kick him out for it, but the guy has a free speech right to say “No.”

All I’m saying is that Property rights don’t always trump other rights; I’m not saying that they never do.

“Same thing with guns.”

I disagree with that. Carrying a gun is not necessarily creating a public or private disturbance, especially if it’s not seen, most especially if it’s not heard.


107 posted on 09/10/2019 11:50:07 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

I disagree with that. Carrying a gun is not necessarily creating a public or private disturbance, especially if it’s not seen, most especially if it’s not heard.


Remove the word “especially” and I agree.

Disturbances are subjective. Walking on a beach in a string bikini is not considered creating a public disturbance. Wearing it while shopping in Costco IS. :)


108 posted on 09/10/2019 12:02:19 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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