Posted on 09/08/2019 7:44:43 AM PDT by DeweyCA
4. Every college needs to understand its positioning ..., but critics argue that most schools are content to compete with “identical mediocrity but better gyms.” For what, with whom, and on what dimensions should our institution compete?
5. What is quality, and how should it be measured? Are our programs rigorous enough? Are our students learning enough? Should we care about (and seek to measure somehow) their development outside the classroom?
6. If we were building from scratch, would we make almost every program the same four-year duration? If not, how would we know how long each program should be? Should we unbundle how our credentials work—making them less clumpy by giving a credential at the end of each year, or at some other, more frequent interval?
7. We're witnessing the emergence of high-quality, low-cost ways of learning online. How should we think about hybrid curricular options—that is, the mixing of new forms of pedagogy with old—that might be available to us? How will this affect the residential model?
9. Given the likelihood of more demand for education from mid-career students, fed by the ongoing technological disruption of the workforce, will the expanded supply of mid-career education come mostly from existing elite schools, existing non-elite schools, non-schools becoming schools, or newly created schools?
11. Should we have more differentiated types of faculty roles? Should we create new tracks for faculty members who are able to harness technology to teach hundreds or thousands of students—both residential and remote? Should these roles be tenured? Should the potential compensation be higher?
14. If the state’s community colleges could be folded into our system, would you want them? Why or why not?
16. How should the university balance advancing the educational attainment of the state’s current residents against addressing the state’s long-term workforce needs?
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
That’s because colleges face the same dilemma as retail stores in large malls; the 21st century has arrived and a retail College environment built in the 15th (???) century needs to adapt.
“That’s because colleges face the same dilemma as retail stores in large malls; the 21st century has arrived and a retail College environment built in the 15th (???) century needs to adapt.”
I believe we are on the cusp of a revolution in terms of higher education, but I don’t see colleges going away because of the face to face opportunity it brings to students, and the social element of the student life.
The alternative would be similar to socialized medicine - lack of doctors because of lack of money/opportunity, just as I suspect a dearth of professors due to similar circumstances if we were to go online/remote only. Then we’d have to subsidize them in order to keep them.
Academic research money is the largest draw in professorship from what I can tell.
If most people knew it, wouldn't they cease to patronize the system they know is broken?
Most people I know, including FReepers in my state, are carrying on status quo.
For example, the son of one of my church friends is a freshman at an excellent state university, planning to major in a liberal arts field. His parents are supporting this, even though his older brother, who graduated almost two years ago from another excellent state university, with a degree (double major) in a liberal arts field ... is unemployed, living at home, and what I would call a lousy houseguest, here's your eviction notice, write when you find work.
He'd be on the curb with a cardboard sign saying, "Will do nothing for food then complain about the food."
Middle- to upper-middle-class parents face a massive brainwashing campaign, telling them that, if you love your child, you must do this: pay for him to go away to college for four (five, six) years and support whatever course of study he chooses. My friend's current college-student son was accepted at a prestigious private university, and he tried to persuade his parents that they owed to him to bear any financial burden so he could attend and get the "best education."
You left off #1: “How can colleges turn out better All-Union Leninist Young Communist League members dedicated to The Revolution?”
Usually known as Komsomol, the Young Communist Leage was a political youth organization in the Soviet Union. It is sometimes described as the youth division of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, although it was officially independent and referred to as “the helper and the reserve of the CPSU”.
“college administrators and faculty”
The college administrators and faculty SALARIES should be compared for the last 20 / 30 years !!
Like in —how many GENERALS we have in the army and how many grunts compared for the last same 20 30 years .
Yes, that is true. However, the university system as a whole is not running on the students who are pursuing, let alone earning, Bachelor of Science degrees. It’s useful to be aware of the washout/change-major rate for students in those degree fields.
As an incoming studentat NC State we were priviledged to hear a welcoming presentation by the chancelor.
He told us to look to each side at the person sitting there. He said at graduation, they will not be there. As a matter of fact one will not be there come the second semester in January.
The kids are not going to give up 4 years of partying! They can sleep in every morning, go to the gym, download a few papers from the internet and party. Why give *that* up.
It’s a good article with good questions. However, my expectation is that universities in general will continue the same trajectory - higher costs, more country-club facilities, less-rigorous standards - indefinitely unless the Federal government money is cut off both from student costs and payments to faculties.
Non-degree-completion rates are still very significant across the university environment. Unfortunately, for the people paying the bills, that means the money spent is simply gone. You might as well have spent it on a cruise to Fiji.
For those who have borrowed ... ne Zot. My husband and I went to a concert earlier this these. The opening performer was a 20-something singer-songwriter whose main topic was her university experiences, especially romances. She left the university with no degree after three years.
Yes...”best education”....I guess it depends upon WHO defines that. Our grandson went to comm college, got basic 2 year degree...we refused to pay for more till he figured out what he wanted to do...his parents weren’t going to help either...and it’s all good...he has a decent job in construction. Parents who facilitate sloth deserve what they get...imho, but it’s bad for their children
But what about the football team?
/sarc
Our children go to community college, as well. So far, two have joined the military, one graduated from the local state university, one is currently attending the same - both lived at home - one has a full-time job and can get more education when it’s important to her.
Our current high school senior is in his 3rd semester co-enrolled at CC.
“Our children go to community college, as well. So far, two have joined the military, one graduated from the local state university, one is currently attending the same - both lived at home - one has a full-time job and can get more education when it’s important to her.”
Back when I was a young ‘un, I decided college wasn’t for me. After working a dead end job or two, I learned my lesson. Attended my local CC for a couple of years and easily transferred to a nearby state college that I wouldn’t have qualified for due to my high school grades. Best choice I ever made.
I wish you and your family love and success in the future. You’ve done a good job raising them. Cheers!
Well, ok, I can’t resist telling the tale.
About 8 years ago I attended a week long workshop in metals held at a fine arts enclave located several miles from the main campus of a university. I have learned to work in silver.
We were given a tour. The head of the glass studio asked at the first words he uttered...... “What’s the difference between a large Domino’s pepperoni pizza and a glass artist?”
“The pizza can feed a family of four.”
But I digress.
Each evening the various work shop heads made presentations and had extensive presentations of their work
The wood work shop was hosted by the out going resident artist in the wood work studio. She showed the pictures and some showed beautiful work in furniture and boxes I think. Most was devoted to her calling however. Her calling and reason for being was to express the dialogue between lines and dots.
She would make door frames and window facing and all sorts of architectural fenestration from wood that received a wash of tempera paint onto which she took an HB pencil and made a dot from which a line extended. The dots were more or less uniform but the lines mostly at right angles were of various lengths. This meticulously applied pencil work was a dialogue between lines and dots.
She was very upset and complained through the whole presentation. She had to leave the security of the wood studio where she had dwelled for about 8 years. She came as a freshman Fine Arts Major, spent 2 more years getting a Masters of Fine arts and then was granted 2 more years as Artist in Residence, Wood Working Studio. At 26 she was kicked out into the hard cold world. She was wonderfully talented and made beautiful stuff. She was hung up as an artist however.....lines and dots.
It was realized that she had to make a living and the solution proposed was a production item. That is artist code for something you make over and over rather than just one at a time. The buzz is “do you have a production item”.
Well she developed one. Mirror Frames that were about 3 “ wide painted in the yellow milk tempera and containing the wonderful hand applied dialogue with lines and dots. So all was well. She had the production item and sold one.
OOps.....there was a problem.
It had to be shipped. She could find no box the right size to ship the frame in. Turns out to get a box or boxes, the frames had to be dimensionally fabricated to a size determined by the box manufacturer. Time for crying...... literally. Her whole artistic world came crashing down.
The box maker destroyed her artistic freedom and thus her integrity and thus her being.
The story had no end. Her final days at the school including the summer workshop gig granted in total pity was at an end. She had no job. She had no prospects. The wonderful production item was distasteful because of the loss of artistic freedom and integrity.
I don’t know what happened but know that she at 26 thought the world was nearing an end
an incoming studentat NC State we were priviledged to hear a welcoming presentation by the chancelor.
He told us to look to each side at the person sitting there. He said at graduation, they will not be there. As a matter of fact one will not be there come the second semester in January.
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Nearly every incoming freshman speech gets that same line used on them about looking to the person on your left and right. I also went to North Carolina State University. I graduated in 1990
Proving you’re a great parent
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