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To: Ancesthntr
you say that I and every other believing Jew for the last approximately 2,000 years has somehow failed to follow the law.

Yes, I do. I'm sorry if you're offended. Unless you have kept every law of Moses, every one, you have broken the law. No man will be justified by keeping the law because no man can keep it. We all fail at some point to keep the law.

To quote the Apostle Paul, "Yet we know that a person is made right with God by faith in Jesus Christ, not by obeying the law. And we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we might be made right with God because of our faith in Christ, not because we have obeyed the law. For no one will ever be made right with God by obeying the law.”

If you have any interest in better understanding Christianity from a Jewish Christian's perspective, I suggest you read the New Testament, which is written by Jews who never stopped being Jews and also find some Jewish Believers and talk to them about your faith and vice versa.

I sincerely pray you find and be filled with the Lord's Shalom!

71 posted on 09/03/2019 1:14:07 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

One doesn’t need to be perfect in order to follow the Law; God provides for forgiveness of sins against Him during the 10 Days of Awe between Rosh HaShanah (the Jewish New Year) and Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement). God knows our hearts and our deeds, knows very well that we are not perfect, and will forgive us (or not) as He decides. No intermediaries necessary. WRT our sins against our fellow human beings, even God cannot forgive them - we have to ask those people for their forgiveness (which is why murder is literally unforgivable on the human level - it is simply not possible to gain the forgiveness of the murder victim, though God can forgive the sin of murder if He so chooses).

The law is not subject to change, not since Deuteronomy 4:2 became part of the Torah (the 5 Books of Moses):

“Do not add to the word which I command you, nor diminish from it, to observe the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.”

Christianity adds to the word commanded to us by God. Note that even Jesus himself, in your scriptures (Matthew 5:18), says not to change the law - not one jot nor tittle of it:

“For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”

I don’t know how in the world you can square not changing the law in the Hebrew Bible, and Jesus’ statement that no part of the law shall pass, with all of the additions and changes made by Jesus’ followers long after he died - logically, one cannot (and don’t give me the nonsense of “you have to have faith” - faith cannot overcome the very clear wording of the law, as there is NO room for interpretation). Oh, and in case you’re tempted to say that all of the laws have been fulfilled...we’re ALL waiting for the Messiah to come, we just differ on whether it is his first trip or a do-over...so all of the Law has NOT been fulfilled.


73 posted on 09/03/2019 2:55:18 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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