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1 posted on 08/31/2019 2:20:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: BobL; oldvirginian; GreenLanternCorps; sphinx

PING.


2 posted on 08/31/2019 2:21:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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Gov. Charlie Baker open to charging fees on ‘managed lanes’ to reduce traffic congestion (8/8/19)
3 posted on 08/31/2019 2:23:25 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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Abolishing the organized criminal organizations known as “labor unions” could solve it in a hurry.


4 posted on 08/31/2019 2:24:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.")
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Problem with “congestion pricing” is it acts like people are choosing to all be in town at the same time. “Curse all these people working normal work hours!” All you do is punish people with less flexible work schedules, who are also probably lower waged.


5 posted on 08/31/2019 2:29:57 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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A tax on working stiffs


8 posted on 08/31/2019 2:38:19 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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More jobs? More people working? More traffic congestion?

Trump’s Fault!

Gee. The roads were pristine and easy to navigate when 0bama was pres__ent!

*SMIRK*


9 posted on 08/31/2019 2:39:12 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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“I see you have some money there. Give it to me.”


10 posted on 08/31/2019 2:39:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.")
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Start taxing the plug in electrics. Most of the road infrastructure is funded by gasoline taxes (or debt). Make the electrics pay a fair share.


15 posted on 08/31/2019 2:48:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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How inspired?
Clearly a visit to Londonistan!


18 posted on 08/31/2019 3:02:29 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks Tol,

Personally, I’d rather build the lane capacity and let people drive when they want, rather than having the state strongly ‘encourage’ people as to when they SHOULD be driving.

But maybe that’s because I won’t be on the receiving end of the HUGE amount of revenue schemes like this can generate for our government masters.


20 posted on 08/31/2019 3:11:26 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Let’s try it out on Florida this weekend.
Raise the tolls on people fleeing the hurricane.

/Evil Mode off.


22 posted on 08/31/2019 3:24:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Bump


26 posted on 08/31/2019 3:39:44 PM PDT by foreverfree
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Get rid of all the illegal aliens and the traffic problem nearly disappears. The illegals went on strike here for a day to show their impact. Except everything got better. Less traffic. More parking. Less accidents. And the food was better.


27 posted on 08/31/2019 3:44:57 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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Well, since tax dollars go to gov employees with lavish benefits (even if the paycheck is low), I guess there’s no other choice.


29 posted on 08/31/2019 3:51:27 PM PDT by fruser1
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OK, Democrats and mushy middle people, here’s a lesson in economics with government intervention.

That’s called creating perverse incentive, a profit motive.

Let’s assume you accept “congestion pricing.” You’ll be told that the money will be used for “infrastructure,” purportedly to improve the congestion.

Do you really believe that? If so, why?

It’ll be used to create an entire “congestion” bureaucracy filled with protected class unproductive employees and you’ll never get rid of them.

And the roads will just get more and more congested, because you’re rewarding the government for creating them.

Sounds simple enough to me to grasp this reality. But, Democrats and independents fall for it every time.

Even a few Republicans do.


31 posted on 08/31/2019 3:58:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I prefer the old fashioned way of using tax money properly.


32 posted on 08/31/2019 4:25:58 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The problem is that whole new communities need to be created, i.e., job locations (chiefly light industry) along with housing and services. Regulations, NIMBYism and general idiot greenishness prevent normal growth.

Certainly anti-housing legal environment and politics contribute to this. California is way under-built, i.e., has a desperate general housing shortage after @ 25 years of such behavior.

But creation of housing far away from where new jobs are being created is the real cause of transportation gridlock. Whole new communities with light industry are needed, and that just isn't happening.

44 posted on 08/31/2019 10:09:02 PM PDT by Thud
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how about, congestion limiting, instead?

Wouldn’t congestion pricing increase congestion? Drawing those employers who can perk their employees’ fees while shutting out the little guys employees, with the side effect of even more government congestion. City govts that have enough employees to populate a medium town is never a good thing for the taxpayer. Put a cap on it. This is the size of our town/city and what our taxpayers can afford and tolerate; and you’ll have to locate your business/retail centers outside in the ‘burbs or the next town over. Just like any residential planned community.


45 posted on 09/01/2019 1:54:16 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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The problem is really (a) the real estate industry and (b) the corporate world and (c) the political class which jointly all prefer job development to keep pilling up more people where there are already more people, instead of where population density is lower.


46 posted on 09/01/2019 8:16:26 AM PDT by Wuli
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