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Gov't can't force Christians to make gay wedding videos, appeals court rules
Christian Post ^ | 08/26/2019 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 08/26/2019 8:53:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

An appeals court has ruled in favor of a Christian couple who oversee a film company that were told by Minnesota officials that they must film same-sex weddings despite religious objections.

A three judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit decided last Friday that the Minnesota Human Rights Act violated the First Amendment rights of Carl and Angel Larsen of Telescope Media Group.

The decision largely overturned a lower court ruling against the Larsens and remanded their request for an injunction against the MHRA back to the district court level.

Circuit Judge David Stras, author of the court opinion, wrote that “antidiscrimination laws, as critically important as they are, must yield to the Constitution.”

“Indeed, if Minnesota were correct, there is no reason it would have to stop with the Larsens. In theory, it could use the MHRA to require a Muslim tattoo artist to inscribe ‘My religion is the only true religion’ on the body of a Christian if he or she would do the same for a fellow Muslim, or it could demand that an atheist musician perform at an evangelical church service,” wrote Judge Stras.

“The district court also ruled that the Larsens could not seek relief on various other constitutional theories. We largely agree that these claims fail. But one—the free-exercise claim—can proceed because it is intertwined with their free-speech claim.”

Circuit Judge Jane Kelly authored an opinion that concurred in part and dissented in part, arguing that while objections to same-sex marriage are protected by the First Amendment, such protections should not apply to businesses.

“The Larsens remain free to communicate any message they desire—about same-sex marriage or any other topic—or no message at all,” wrote Judge Kelly.

“What they cannot do is operate a public accommodation that serves customers of one sexual orientation but not others. And make no mistake, that is what today’s decision affords them license to do.”

In December 2016, the Larsens filed a lawsuit against the MHRA's ban on sexual orientation discrimination, arguing that the measure would force them to film same-sex weddings.

U.S. District Court Judge John Tunheim ruled against the Larsens in September 2017, concluding that the law is "neutral" in its application and dismissing the Larsens’ concerns as “immaterial.”

“… when a person views a wedding video, there is little danger that they would naturally attribute the video's messages to the videographer,” wrote Judge Tunheim, adding that “the Larsens can easily disclaim personal sponsorship of the messages depicted in the wedding videos they create for clients.”

“For example, the Larsens could post language on their website stating that while they follow applicable law, and thus serve couples regardless of protected status, they are opposed to same-sex marriage.”

The Larsens, who are represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom, appealed the decision to the Eighth Circuit, with arguments heard before the panel last October.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appealscourt; christians; firstamendment; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; janekelly; lawsuit; religiousliberty
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To: SeekAndFind
“antidiscrimination laws, as critically important as they are, must yield to the Constitution.”

If anti-discrimination laws violate the Constitution then how can they be critically important?

21 posted on 08/26/2019 9:41:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a huge difference between this case and a bakery for instance. Being forced to bake a cake glorifying homosexuality is outrageous but at least the baker has limited personal contact with the deviancy. But if you’re a photographer, you actually have to participate in the proceeding and you even have to orchestrate some of it. To force someone to do that against his wishes is absolutely beyond the pale, it’s absolutely disgusting, and is unconstitutional for any number of reasons.


22 posted on 08/26/2019 10:07:01 AM PDT by KyCats
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To: cuban leaf

Most “public accommodation” laws are blatantly unconstitutional. I wish there was a court in the U.S. with the b@lls to stand up and say so.


23 posted on 08/26/2019 10:11:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: SeekAndFind

So can they force Halal food upon the Christian?


24 posted on 08/26/2019 10:13:31 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: NorthMountain

Lol


25 posted on 08/26/2019 10:28:13 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: SeekAndFind
In Dec. 2016, the Larsens filed suit against a state law that would compel them to film same-sex wedding ceremonies despite their religious objections.

What if someone was just so disgusted by the sight of two men kissing, holding hands and frolicking around, that they refused to perform a service at a gay wedding? Why does there need to be a religious backstop to someone's rights (freedom of association, freedom of expression, freedom of speech, etc.)?

26 posted on 08/26/2019 10:48:05 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I gave my dog Grady a last name - Trump - because he loves tweets.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Wow …

I thought she was hot, you thought she was a turn-off.

de gustibus …

27 posted on 08/26/2019 10:54:04 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: lasereye

“… when a person views a wedding video, there is little danger that they would naturally attribute the video’s messages to the videographer,” wrote Judge Tunheim, adding that “the Larsens can easily disclaim personal sponsorship of the messages depicted in the wedding videos they create for clients.”


The product isn’t really a thing. It’s a creative act. Art.

No one should be able to be compelled to produce art for another. Sale of an on-hand blank or generic tape/DVD? Sure.


28 posted on 08/26/2019 11:54:32 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

BRAVO!


29 posted on 08/26/2019 12:31:49 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: cuban leaf

“Do they not have a constitutionally protected right to do business with whomever they choose?”

Not according to the current interpretation of the federal courts, and Congress.


30 posted on 08/26/2019 12:34:55 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Not according to the current interpretation of the federal courts, and Congress.

If this is upheld by the Supreme Court then I would assume it would have the effect of striking down all the state anti-discrimination laws in the country. Or at least the ones which include sexual orientation.

31 posted on 08/26/2019 12:38:07 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

The courts usually tend to favor preserving as much of the law as possible and only carving out the narrowest exceptions, so I doubt they would strike down any laws at all, even if the Supreme Court upholds this ruling.

They will simply go back to the way the law was applied a few years ago, where someone refusing to use their creative work or speech to endorse something was not seen as meeting the criteria for “discrimination”.


32 posted on 08/26/2019 1:21:52 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Ohioan; marktwain

Both well phrased points.


33 posted on 08/26/2019 3:39:28 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: NorthMountain
I thought she was hot, you thought she was a turn-off.

You were VERY right!!!!!

34 posted on 08/26/2019 3:41:37 PM PDT by terycarl (Notre Dame was God's way of pointing out that France has fallen from His favor....)
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