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1 posted on 08/18/2019 6:27:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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we have a very, very big mental health problem and Congress is working on various things
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Let me do a little MSM spin on this (Just like Whirled News Tonight).

Note that we have these mental health problems, and, Congress . . .

Congress is the Mental Problem!


2 posted on 08/18/2019 6:36:44 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/S liberally (oops) applied to all posts.)
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President Reagan’s biggest mistake (arguably) was allowing congress to put so many mentally ill people on the streets.


4 posted on 08/18/2019 6:42:58 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (There are only two genders.)
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The fella in Philly broke six million gun laws...politicians now discussing gun laws


7 posted on 08/18/2019 6:45:57 PM PDT by northislander
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Yes but democrats are telling the American people if you don’t pass gun control they are going to unleash more ... uh ... there will be more mass shootings of innocent Americans.

And it will be done by White Nationalist Trump supporters too, so better get on it!


11 posted on 08/18/2019 7:01:00 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Every category of violent crime is down about 40% since 1993...don’t fall for the trauma based mind control propaganda


14 posted on 08/18/2019 7:05:28 PM PDT by northislander
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Every category of violent crime is down about 40% since 1993...don’t fall for the trauma based mind control propaganda


15 posted on 08/18/2019 7:05:28 PM PDT by northislander
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President Trump is certainly right about “a very big mental health problem” For example when someone recommends as a technique running outside and firing two random blasts from a double barrel shotgun. They have a very big mental health problem. Maybe they are a little Slow. Like Slow Joe. I’m always very mindful of how many rounds of ammo I have on me. I wouldn’t want to be the next Reginald Denny. The Presidents campaign team needs to make a tv spot with Crazy Joe and the fact that he needs to be the first person RED FLAGGED.


18 posted on 08/18/2019 7:11:54 PM PDT by cquiggy
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ImVho, we NEED a GOOD & very STRICT Background Investigation that screens for OBVIOUSLY dangerous people, whether they have a “pattern of committing violent acts against other persons” AND or they are in OBVIOUS need of mental health treatment.

The PROBLEM with Background Checks is WHO do we Patriots/Constitutionalists TRUST to actually perform the investigations.
(I wouldn’t trust ANY leftist, Marxist, “Progressive” and/or DIMocRAT in the 21st Century to do a PROPER & LAWFUL investigation of WHO did anything of any sort, as they cannot be TRUSTED to NOT be a BIGOT, CLUELESS FOOL, to LOVE this once-free Republic and/or even to NOT routinely LIE in their reports.)

Let me give you/everyone just a single example of the sort of people who should be INVESTIGATED & thereafter barred from possessing ANY dangerous implement AND that should be required to undergo treatment for a “serious mental disease or defect”. ====> When I was a City Marshal long ago, we had a local resident male, named James Robert “JimBob” S_________________, III.
Everybody who had ever spent 15 minutes listening to his ranting, against ALL women, “Meskins”, “The N-Word”, Papists, “dirty Kikes” & other “unfavored groups” AND heard what he constantly said that he was going to do “TO PUNISH” those people, KNEW that there was “something seriously wrong in that guy’s head”.

During my tenure as the Marshal one of my Deputies or I
must have “picked him up” & “charged him” at least ten times for assaulting various people, for shoplifting, residential burglary & for “theft of livestock”.
(The DA seldom “proceeded to trial”, as it evidently was “too much trouble” to indict/try him. - On the 2 occasions that he was actually tried in our county the judge gave him a 50.oo fine plus court costs for “simple assault” & a 500.oo fine plus court cost for stealing a cow.)

About 2 years after my wife passed away from cancer & I requested to return to AD with the Army, I heard that “mostly harmless JimBob” had been caught breaking into a store in Gregg County. = The DA in that county didn’t see the business burglary as “trivial”, had him indicted by grand jury & started preparations for trial. - During those preparations, a search warrant was issued for his rented house in our county. That search discovered evidence of numerous other burglaries, numerous pairs of “little girl’s panties” & (to the horror & surprise of the officer, who searched the house) a withered/dried-out human hand.

Subsequent questioning of the subject got an “admission” that “JimBob” had burglarized at least 20 houses in 4 nearby counties, to “- - - - look at & touch sleeping kids & to get me some souvenirs”.
(”JimBob” also admitted that during his “one person crime spree” that he had been armed with a hunting knife & a .32 caliber revolver.)

As a result of that “admission” & the evidence in the commercial burglary, “JimBob” received “25 years to Life” in the TDC for his varied felony crimes.
(As far as I know in 2019, he is still confined at BETO 1.)

Fwiw, my point in recounting this episode is that “a pattern of misdemeanors” is NOT “a minor thing” & having been “handled by LE officers” repeatedly should be JUST CAUSE to determine if the individual should be able to purchase or simply possess any dangerous weapon and/or NEEDS treatment for a mental condition. -— During such a background investigation, other crimes may well come to light.

Note: Who the human hand “belonged to” was never discovered, as far as I know.

Just my OPINIONS, TMN78247


22 posted on 08/18/2019 7:34:44 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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Alex Trebek: “For $500 dollars, ‘what is NICS?’” “’What is NICS?’”


23 posted on 08/18/2019 7:51:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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MKUltra...the gift that just keeps waiting.


25 posted on 08/18/2019 8:11:45 PM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!))
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Here is the problem with the idea for more asylums. We have a culture where the mentally ill are considered normal and the sane are now a very small minority. How can it be done with this as the reality?


26 posted on 08/18/2019 8:16:32 PM PDT by Openurmind
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He’s listening to the people. And hearing.


28 posted on 08/18/2019 8:35:28 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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I still have a gut feeling that is is a ploy to make the demonrats come out with all their insane proposals and tyrannical ideas to enslave the people. Once out, they can’t be pulled back. They will all follow the script just like the current pivot from Russia to racism.


32 posted on 08/19/2019 12:12:49 AM PDT by Cololeo
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President Trump gets it right

If a person is a legit, serious enough danger to commit mass murder that they be denied access to guns, that person needs be committed and given treatment.

Gun are just a tool and as we see from Europe, mass murderers find a way to commit their crimes without access to guns

34 posted on 08/19/2019 1:48:39 AM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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My, my lookie at all the excuses we can create. Americans love their delusions.

Here us a fact. 26 out of 27 of the latest mass shootings occurred where there was no stable influence of a father in the home. Make that 100 % for all the shootings in Chitown, Balmore, etc.

Here is another fact. It is not mental health that needs to be addressed. It is EVIL that must be recognized. How so very modern and quaint to treat evil as a mental health problem. I choose unicorns for a hundred Alex.

35 posted on 08/19/2019 2:59:55 AM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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Enforce the laws we already have.

Passing new laws is meaningless if we don't enforce the ones already on the books.

40 posted on 08/19/2019 5:07:07 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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The problem with background checks is that they never catch the first time offender.


43 posted on 08/19/2019 5:54:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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They were born into the system, not put on the street. They have always been drugged up with Ritalin and Prozac)and been on the street (especially boys-ya know they can’t be rambunctious). This is not the 1970’s! :)


46 posted on 08/19/2019 7:36:14 AM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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[[[we have a very, very big mental health problem and Congress is working on various things]]]

I predict this facet of the issue will NEVER be addressed. The left wants this issue for gun control, nothing more.

Virtually every one of these lunatics had mental health issues with early warning signs that were never acted on, ignored or covered up.


51 posted on 08/19/2019 10:41:59 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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20 minutes in cities is common...


60 posted on 08/19/2019 11:31:13 AM PDT by northislander
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