Posted on 08/18/2019 4:42:38 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
Amen. Just leave.
“Why would a “hard border” with Ireland be necessary?”
Because a continued soft border would maintain a loophole to bypass all of the restrictions that the EU has regarding the non-EU countries, including movement of people and goods.
That border would have to become hard if the UK leaves...but no, with Trump’s US to trade with, the UK will be JUST FINE...and who knows, maybe Trump can talk some sense into their leaders there, particularly regarding freedom of speech.
It’s ‘Britain’, a geographical rather than administrative/political/constitutional term, which is confusing. The border is that of the United Kingdom. It consists of a sea border between England/Wales/Scotland and all other states, plus a land border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland), together with Northern Ireland, form the United Kingdom.
Everybody panic! It’ll be cats and dogs living together if Britain no longer bows down to its Brussels overlords!
And that presents a big problem. The referendum was for maximum brexit, which means taking Northern Ireland with them. But, putting a land border through Ireland violates the Good Friday Agreement and re-ignites a war with the IRA and seriously damages relations with Ireland. If they leave Northern Ireland behind, they violate the referendum and create a template for Scotland leaving the UK since they don't want to leave the EU.
Quite so. I guessed from your persistence in repeating the question that you had these consequences in mind!
As a guy who thinks Brexit is a mistake for the UK, I don’t agree with this doomsday scenario.
things won’t be that bad
The UK would need to put up a hard border i.e. with checks either
1. between NI and RoI
2. OR between NI and rUK and declare the 1 country 2 systems policy with NI in the customs union and rUK out of it.
If they don’t put up a barrier then
1. priti patel who just announced that immigrants from other eu countries will not be allowed, will have no way of preventing this
2. the free flow of goods from the rest of the eu will cause a WTO case filed against the UK by Japan, china, usa, india, etc. etc. asking for similar no-tariffs on their products
And on that you're wrong - both the UK and Ireland/the EU don't want a hard border.
The EU folks are demanding that the UK live up to its promise on the good friday agreement for no border.
The movement of people and goods is more a concern for the UK which is a net importer of goods and people
Correct, this is fear-mongering and serves no one. Trade will continue - it might cost more, but will continue.
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