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Dad who left twins in hot car is an Iraq war vet described as an ‘amazing’ father
NYPost ^ | July 27, 2019

Posted on 07/28/2019 4:52:42 AM PDT by SMGFan

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To: Hieronymus

•On the whole, opting to keep the kid home is safer, even if it is harder.•

Easiest job I ever had.


61 posted on 07/28/2019 6:41:03 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Texas Eagle
Why was he taking the kids to day care in the first place? Why didn't one of the parents, preferably the mom, stay home and raise them?

It's much better for children to have full-time parental supervision. There's no question about it.

62 posted on 07/28/2019 6:45:46 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: ontap
I honestly think of some of the stupid things I’ve done because my mind was on something else....but for the grace of God go I.

Ditto, completely forgotten about meetings, appointments, leave stove/iron/etc. on, driven home or to work with no recollection of driving at all when I got there... I have always been extremely absent minded, and have always had to take notes and come up with tricks to remember things, even urgent things. It actually seems to have gotten better as I have gotten older, but yeah we are not all so perfect as many here seem to be.

63 posted on 07/28/2019 6:47:04 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Texas Eagle
You know how your car dings when you leave your headlights on after you turn the car off? Why can't we do the same thing with seat belts?

My wife and I have been driving older cars for the past twenty years. We recently upgraded to a 2017 Subaru Outback for her and a 2014 Corolla for me. I was surprised to see that the newer cars have a sensor that detects when the front passenger seat is occupied and won't activate the airbag unless someone is seated there. So the technology is available; it's just a matter of putting it to use.

A less high-tech solution might be to develop a paradigm similar to "always assume the gun is loaded," for parents, so that they never walk away from the car, under any circumstances, without checking the interior.

64 posted on 07/28/2019 6:50:31 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: rlmorel

So sorry you had a traumatic incident. There is something about car accidents, no matter how trivial, that seem to leave scars. We drove into a ditch on a very rainy night here and had to be dragged out by two policemen (thank you, Sergeant Dean!!). Although we were completely unhurt, my husband was embarrassed and I was shaking so bad, Sergeant Dean put me in his warm vehicle in order to calm down. The car was undamaged but now I’m deathly afraid of all the deep drains and ditches in this state.

Sadly, I suppose, this man’s life is ruined.


65 posted on 07/28/2019 6:54:26 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Amen.


66 posted on 07/28/2019 6:55:47 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SMGFan

Every accident is a crime in Hillary’s socialist village.


67 posted on 07/28/2019 6:58:30 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Jaysin

Remember when the seat belt was mom’s arm reaching out to protect you when she stopped short?!


68 posted on 07/28/2019 6:59:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: SMGFan

I was thinking same. Some kind of early onset dementia?


69 posted on 07/28/2019 7:01:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Texas Eagle
Why didn't one of the parents, preferably the mom, stay home and raise them?

Sadly, its the materialist left and feminists who have shamed mothers who do this. Truly responsible men want their wives at home to raise a healthy family, but most intelligent women now (those who also make the best mothers) have been told their whole lives that if they don't go out and act like men in society, they are oppressed, stupid and weak. It causes great cognitive dissonance.

My wife is extremely smart and highly educated. She was on a very fast corporate track because she is highly intelligent, and filled the "female senior manager" diversity box for her company's HR dept. She admits it too - she says she was given more a few more opportunities than men, simply because she was a capable woman.

She instead decided it was absolutely necessary to stay home with our children. Moreover, we both realized a corporation could dump her at any time also. Your family will always be there.

70 posted on 07/28/2019 7:14:15 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SMGFan

This is an excellent argument against tinted windows. The police said no one noticed the kids because the car had heavily tinted windows. I personally don’t like them because a certain segment of our population uses tinted windows as cover prior to and after they commit criminal acts. Police cannot discern what the driver is doing prior to walking up to cars with heavily tinted windows. These kids died from negligence and in part to tinted windows.


71 posted on 07/28/2019 7:19:06 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ronniesgal
This tragedy sounds to me like it involved "cop-out thinking"......"oh, dad's got them, they'll be alright."

Casually shrugging off what "could" happen.

No matter how trustworthy dad is.....
a mother HAS to factor in tragic unforseen extraordinary circumstances when it comes to protecting her children.

The real tragedy is that the mom probably is very protective......just not this time.

72 posted on 07/28/2019 7:21:26 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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To: SMGFan

Sometimes a tragedy is just that, a tragedy. Was there any criminal intent? Will the State be able to punish him any more than he will punish himself?


73 posted on 07/28/2019 7:22:39 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#Dregs #DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe #BuildIt)
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To: Texas Eagle
Why was he taking the kids to day care in the first place? Why didn't one of the parents, preferably the mom, stay home and raise them?

He and his wife probably made that decision together.

But I agree that daycare is a factor. Tragedies can happen at home, too. But, if one parent is always home, at least then the babies won't be forgotten somewhere. Maybe forgotten in the house, but not in a hot car.

74 posted on 07/28/2019 7:26:45 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Keep fighting, Nick!)
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To: xenia

Years ago, on a Dr. Laura’s radio show, she read a letter from a father. He complained that people don’t understand. He said raising children today is very expensive. As an example, he said that daycare costs more than his wife earns.

Dr. Laura stopped to say, “Is this man an idiot?”

But that was very common for a long time. Moms were shamed for staying home. I’ve read that the trend is changing now, moving back to mothers at home with their babies.


75 posted on 07/28/2019 7:35:07 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Keep fighting, Nick!)
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To: twyn1
Leave your cell phone on the back seat...

I recently saw a meme on Facebook suggesting that parents leave something "important" in the back seat so they have to go back and get it and will realize, before it's too late, that their kid is also in the back seat. I never saw such fury and rage online in my life, posters saying, "How DARE they say something 'important,' as if a child isn't important?!" When I suggested that the meme was only trying to prevent another tragedy, not suggest that a cell phone is more important than a child, I was viciously attacked. I guess those people can now comfort themselves that at least this father of twins didn't have anyone tell him to put something important in his back seat.

76 posted on 07/28/2019 7:38:18 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: stanne

I wish you could talk to my (estranged) wife.

Working within a budget can be difficult—and it can be tempting to envy larger budgets and think that the homemaking job would be easier if their was more money.


77 posted on 07/28/2019 7:39:48 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: SMGFan

If boiling your child to death in a car got perps a felony murder charge, we’d have a lot less forgetfulness.

Until then this is legalized infanticide.


78 posted on 07/28/2019 7:40:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: SMGFan

It happened to a friend several years ago. Horrible


79 posted on 07/28/2019 7:43:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Tired of Taxes

My mother (a homemaker) sat me and my sisters down when I was about 12 to explain that working outside the home was a luxury that our family could not afford.

She did a very good job of it—both the explaining and the home making.

Child care, increased food costs, increased transportation costs, spending more because one does not have time to hit up sales and marked down produce, wardrobe costs etc. all add up.


80 posted on 07/28/2019 7:43:20 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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