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Apocalyptic Sea-Level Rise—Just a Thing of the Past?
townhall.com ^ | 7/23/2019 | Gregory Rummo

Posted on 07/27/2019 7:47:10 AM PDT by rktman

Dr. Roy Spencer, who has a Ph.D. in meteorology, writing in An Inconvenient Deception, states that compared to Al Gore’s warnings of a sea-level rise of 20 feet, the actual measurement is one inch per decade for over 150 years with no observed acceleration.

This could not be true if it were anthropogenic (human-caused), since there has been ample time for acceleration since 1940, “which is the earliest that humanity’s greenhouse gas emissions could have had any substantial effect.” Sea-level rise is a process that is mostly natural since it “predates the Industrial Revolution,” Dr. Spencer explains.

This may be small comfort to the people living in Miami Beach, for example, where sea-level rise has been worse than the average. But a 2017 study reported that the land is sinking at a rate of 3 mm per year—equal to the sea-level rise—causing a doubling of the effect and magnifying the rise of water at lunar high tides.

No one should “deny” climate change per se. It is a characteristic of the planet upon which we live.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: climageddon; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; flooding; globalwarminghoax; globetastrophe; greennewdeal; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine
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Oh, I don't deny climate change. It was 57 this morning and headed into the high 80s by this afternoon. It rained yesterday with some small hail. Not supposed to rain today. So, yeah, climate change. Wonder why the lame stream leads folks to believe that when and if the sea level rise happens, places like Miami and NYC will be under hundreds of feet of water? At least it seems they intimate that. Still waiting on algore or billybowtie nye to get back to me on the following?

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet.

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.

1 posted on 07/27/2019 7:47:10 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Yes it is a thing of the past.

300 ft at the end of the most recent (not the last, there will be more) ice age.

About 5000 ft in the Mediterranean when the natural dam at what is now the straights of Gibraltar failed.

Those both happened, and were both in the past...


2 posted on 07/27/2019 7:55:13 AM PDT by null and void (The Left isn't banning "Hate Speech", they are banning speech they hate. BIG difference.)
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To: rktman
Need a fact check on this one:

The Vikings colonized portions of Greenland and were able to plant warm-weather crops such as potatoes.

3 posted on 07/27/2019 7:59:13 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: null and void

No doubt because of the increased use of AC in ‘yewwwwrope’.


4 posted on 07/27/2019 8:00:15 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

Well that is inconvenient. /s


5 posted on 07/27/2019 8:01:52 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: ptsal
That was after they went to Peru to get the seed potatoes, duh!
6 posted on 07/27/2019 8:03:01 AM PDT by null and void (The Left isn't banning "Hate Speech", they are banning speech they hate. BIG difference.)
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To: rktman

Check photos of the moat at Fort Monroe. The tide has been changing there for 150 years. There may be an inch of movement there but whatever it may be it is pretty negligible.


7 posted on 07/27/2019 8:06:58 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: rktman

The sea level rise issue comes from ignorance on the part of some, deception by others, and invalid and incorrect assumptions by some so called “scientists” regarding when oceans & ice evaporates due to greater warming, where will all that water go.

While I do not support their thesis, their own error is in how much the greater evaporation of seas and ice will return to the seas. Yes, all rivers do eventually flow to the seas. But what they vastly under estimate is (a) how much water can and will be retained in existing and possibly new land-locked lakes and (b) how much water will be added to the land-based water table and underground reservoirs and aquifers. They also under estimate how a greener planet will have a greater abundance of green plants which will absorb great amounts of water also.

That is only to suggests, that there is every possibility that the greater warmth they predict, even if it nears that prediction (not saying it will), could conceivably NOT produce all the calamities they claim it will. Changes yes, but not necessarily calamities.


8 posted on 07/27/2019 8:09:58 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: null and void

Interesting:

Icelandic saga accounts of life in Greenland were composed in the 13th century and later, and do not constitute primary sources for the history of early Norse Greenland. Modern understanding therefore mostly depends on the physical data from archeological sites. Interpretation of ice core and clam shell data suggests that between 800 and 1300, the regions around the fjords of southern Greenland experienced a relatively mild climate several degrees Celsius higher than usual in the North Atlantic, with trees and herbaceous plants growing, and livestock being farmed. Barley was grown as a crop up to the 70th parallel. What is verifiable is that the ice cores indicate Greenland has had dramatic temperature shifts many times over the past 100,000 years. Similarly the Icelandic Book of Settlements records famines during the winters, in which “the old and helpless were killed and thrown over cliffs”.

One of the last contemporary written mentions of the Norse Greenlanders records a marriage which took place in 1408 in the church of Hvalsey—today the best-preserved Nordic ruins in Greenland.
These Icelandic settlements vanished during the 14th and early 15th centuries. The demise of the Western Settlement coincides with a decrease in summer and winter temperatures. A study of North Atlantic seasonal temperature variability during the Little Ice Age showed a significant decrease in maximum summer temperatures beginning in the late 13th century to early 14th century—as much as 6 to 8 °C (11 to 14 °F) lower than modern summer temperatures. The study also found that the lowest winter temperatures of the last 2000 years occurred in the late 14th century and early 15th century. The Eastern Settlement was likely abandoned in the early to mid-15th century, during this cold period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland#History


9 posted on 07/27/2019 8:12:24 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Wuli
Have you checked the final destination of the Truckee River? Just sayin'. 😁
10 posted on 07/27/2019 8:14:55 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Wuli
We'll only get more green plants if the level of eeeeeeevil see-oh-too going into the atmosphere rises.

There simply isn't enough of the essential plant nutrient CO2 in the current atmosphere to feed twice the greenery as we have now.

11 posted on 07/27/2019 8:16:19 AM PDT by null and void (The Left isn't banning "Hate Speech", they are banning speech they hate. BIG difference.)
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To: trisham

Every time the Erf’s temperature rose a few degrees life flourished.

If you like living things, you must embrace warming...


12 posted on 07/27/2019 8:19:34 AM PDT by null and void (The Left isn't banning "Hate Speech", they are banning speech they hate. BIG difference.)
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To: null and void

Exactly right!


13 posted on 07/27/2019 8:20:12 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ptsal

No excuse for such a mistake.


14 posted on 07/27/2019 8:21:12 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: rktman

Yes, mea culpa. My fingers typed faster than my brain. I should have said “most” rivers, not all rivers, as some, like the Truckee River do not end at an ocean.


15 posted on 07/27/2019 8:22:21 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

LOL! I suppose if you consider evaporation eventually falling as precip over the ocean.


16 posted on 07/27/2019 8:25:42 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


17 posted on 07/27/2019 8:27:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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This may be small comfort to the people living in Miami Beach, for example, where sea-level rise has been worse than the average.

Just got back from Miami Beach and the Keys.

No change in the last 14 years!

If anything the sea level looked lower at high tide!

18 posted on 07/27/2019 8:29:50 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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The people of Miami building houses and condos on the water ways and canals with living space at ground level are just plain stupid.

On the program CSI Miami, the opening sequences traverse many such areas that are doomend. If not completely wiped away by a hurricane direct hit, the damage will be beyond measuring.

Greedy realestate sales people that developed such certain calamaties should be drug into the street and shot. Their sins are unforgivable


19 posted on 07/27/2019 8:34:15 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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“LOL! I suppose if you consider evaporation eventually falling as precip over the ocean.”

My point is I do not. But the climate alarmists think that (a) arctic and antarctic ice merely melts into the ocean and little of that goes to evaporation, and (b) less than they estimate is precipitation of all kinds that never goes to the seas. They over estimate evap & precip that will go to “sea levels”.


20 posted on 07/27/2019 8:41:51 AM PDT by Wuli
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