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Congress fixing it... What could possibly go wrong?
1 posted on 07/21/2019 3:57:54 PM PDT by Freedom56v2
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Politicians are very qualified to solve this problem. Look at the great job they did with Social Security. It’s only a little bit upside down.


2 posted on 07/21/2019 4:02:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All great causes begin as movements, become businesses and end up as rackets." --Eric Hoffer)
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Congress is too busy fixing other important things, like securing free stuff for illegal aliens that flooded into our country by the millions. Who’s got time for old Americans?


3 posted on 07/21/2019 4:03:31 PM PDT by roadcat
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I don’t have a pension, why should I have to pay for their pension?


4 posted on 07/21/2019 4:04:06 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Trump stands alone.)
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maybe not drawing full pension at 50 would help more than fleecing us taxpayers...
5 posted on 07/21/2019 4:05:56 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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I see Boner is delighting in making Big Bucks as a lobbyist whore - in between his golf and his alcoholism.


6 posted on 07/21/2019 4:06:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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No real detail on which retirement funds are underfunded and why. This has only just begun and has been foreseen for many years in advance. This is another known problem where the can has been kicked down the road time and again.


9 posted on 07/21/2019 4:08:36 PM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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“...to the underfunded multiemployer benefit plans.”

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Why are they now underfunded?


10 posted on 07/21/2019 4:09:00 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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This is how it will begin.

Taxpayers in Idaho, a state that pays very low middle class or working class wages to public workers, will be asked to bail out the cadillac pensions of public and private workers in high tax and spend states.

This is not what America is about.

Teachers who make 45k a year should not be asked to bail out teachers who used a union and jacked up the pay for the same task to 90k or more. This is true for autoworkers, police, fire, utility workers, etc etc.

Every American has the right to pick and choose a job based not only on their own pay and benefits, but on the sustainability of their expected retirement. I should NOT have to bail out an entity that paid firefighters 200k a year with overtime that counted towards their retirement benefits!

This is going to be a huge problem for our nation moving forward in addition to the crushing government debt at all levels. The private sector is in the same bad shape as government is within many sectors and Americans do not see the hidden cost in utility rates, the cost of cars, the cost of healthcare, and the list goes on.

We all want a good retirement. I think most of us also want to leave a financially viable and sustainable world for our children. We have a debt problem and when you add our pension debt problem to that (to include social security) we are in very bad trouble.


11 posted on 07/21/2019 4:10:17 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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Many of the pension of which they speak are those of Leftist states that have promised their unions golden pensions that were incapable of being paid. Why should the Federal Government, i.e. the rest of us taxpayers have to pay for the corrupt and irresponsible Leftist state governments and the equaly corrupt unions.


13 posted on 07/21/2019 4:15:09 PM PDT by falcon99 (qu)
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Did Boehner suddenly get released from rehab? That drunk had fallen off the map yet here he is risen from the grave.

The last couple of weeks he has been stumbling around trying to regain the public eye. His first feeble recent attempt was as a #NeverTrump stooge. I wish that jackass would crawl back into the bottle forever.
 

15 posted on 07/21/2019 4:16:19 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (In Italia i fascisti si dividono in due categorie : i fascisti e gli antifascisti. -- Ennio Flaiano)
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Republican Socialism


16 posted on 07/21/2019 4:16:42 PM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter)
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What is this? Unions that demanded too much and cities that bought favors with lies?

No way to bailing out corrupt liberals.


17 posted on 07/21/2019 4:18:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (Joe Biden in 1987:"We (Delawareans) Were on the South's Side in the Civil War". Back in chains Joe?)
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It’s better to go bankrupt early, and get bailed out early. If / When the tidal wave comes, the public will revolt and there won’t be any money left


19 posted on 07/21/2019 4:20:14 PM PDT by PGR88
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Jumping to social security and Medicare I have this question that I wonder if someone can answer. I am sure that the government workers pay their share of social security and Medicare payroll taxes, but does the government pay its share?


20 posted on 07/21/2019 4:20:51 PM PDT by Brilliant
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I kind of like how after United Airlines went bankrupt, the federal pension bailout program came in to help the United Airlines pilots and instead of giving them 6 figure annual pensions they got about $50 to $60 K per year. \

I would like to see all the public employee pension folks get a similar kind of deal if their local agency can't pay the public empolyee pensions. Let the employees start class actions lawsuits against the local government agencies.

24 posted on 07/21/2019 4:27:20 PM PDT by Robert357
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Government employee pensions?

Screw em

rollthem into Social Security.


26 posted on 07/21/2019 4:30:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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Retirement Security Coalition

These appear to all be state run public sector union pensions. That means it's the states that failed to fund them.

-PJ

27 posted on 07/21/2019 4:32:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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Why in Hades should we taxpayers bail out failed pension plans?


31 posted on 07/21/2019 4:33:48 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Everyone trying to “fix” this is neither trying and certainly not demanding that the multi-employer pension plans - whose boards of directors failed their fiduciary responsibilities and allowed them to slide into the messes they are in - be required by the law that performs the bailout to fix, alter, change, reform and adjust their own pension plans to restore a balance between benefits to be paid and necessary fund balances to pay them. If some pensioners have to take a haircut, so be it.

Without such demands on the failing multi-employer plans, Congress will bail out the PBGC (the federal Pension Benefit Guarantee Corportion) so it can bail out the failing multi-employer plans, but the essential problems won’t change and everyone will be back later on asking for bailouts again.


33 posted on 07/21/2019 4:36:54 PM PDT by Wuli
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“Nice 401k you got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.”


34 posted on 07/21/2019 4:37:25 PM PDT by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all.)
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