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1 posted on 07/16/2019 1:49:54 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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PING!


2 posted on 07/16/2019 1:56:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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Socialism is just Communism without the cool flags and symbols.


3 posted on 07/16/2019 1:56:39 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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Thank you. On a related topic:

Perhaps the most thorough, well-founded and complete explanation of how the Framers of America's Constitution of the United States of America "constituted" a form of self-government which was--in the words of Benjamin Franklin, "A Republic. . . if you can keep it. . . . " can be found in John Quincy Adams's "Jubilee" Address, delivered, by invitation of the New York Historical Society, in New York City in April 1839. That Jubilee Address magnificently explained the reasons for the Framers' choice of republic over that of a democracy.

If you want to have handy for constitutionally-illiterate Progressives who may call this a "democracy," then you want to read that Address.

Today, in 2018, when confronted with a decision between individual freedom and slavery, otherwise known as liberty and tyranny, Americans who prefer freedom must be armed with ideas and principles which are "self-evident" and plain. Otherwise, they cannot fend off the onslaught of the "counterfeit ideas" of Progressive ideologues.

When America's Founders and Framers of their Constitution wanted to convince ordinary farmers and citizens of the merits of a written "People's" Constitution to limit the powers of those to whom they entrust the powers of government, they published and circulated 85 essays, known as THE FEDERALIST.

It's time for citizens, once again, to examine those strong and clear words of Madison Hamilton, and Jay. They are just as clear for today's audience as they were then. Circulate the following excerpts to your friends. Even the least politically savvy will "get" Madison's meaning, especially in light of the power grab now going on in Washington. After all, THE FEDERALIST was the Framers' authoritative explanation of their Constitution, and directed by the Board of Visitors of the University of Virginia in 1825 to be used as the text for its law school in its studies of "the general principles of liberty and the rights of man," and said by Jefferson to "constitute 'the general opinion of those who framed, and of those who accepted the Constitution of the U.S., on questions as to its genuine meaning.'":

"The house of representatives... can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as the great mass of society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interest, and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"The aim of every political constitution is, or ought to be, first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of the society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"Such will be the relation between the House of Representatives and their constituents. Duty gratitude, interest, ambition itself, are the cords by which they will be bound to fidelity and sympathy with the great mass of the people." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"If it be asked what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer, the genius of the whole system, the nature of just and constitutional laws, and above all the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America, a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for; but one in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among the several bodies of magistracy as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"The propensity of all single and numerous assemblies (is) to yield to the impulse of sudden and violent passions, and to be seduced by factious leaders into intemperate and pernicious resolutions." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

"Every new regulation concerning commerce or revenue; or in any manner affecting the value of the different species of property, presents a new harvest to those who watch the change and can trace its consequences; a harvest reared not by themselves but by the toils and cares of the great body of their fellow citizens. This is a state of things in which it may be said with some truth that laws are made for the few not for the many." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be tomorrow." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

Note particularly the following words of wisdom from Federalist No. 63, and take heart. You are doing what you were meant to do when you speak out on intrusions on your liberty.  According to Madison:

"As the cool and deliberate sense of the community ought, in all governments, and actually will, in all free governments, ultimately prevail over the views of its rulers; so there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be the most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career, and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice, and truth can regain their authority over the public mind?" - Federalist Papers, No. 63, 1788

 

4 posted on 07/16/2019 1:57:48 PM PDT by loveliberty2 (`)
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Karl Marx is to ‘intellectual economist’ as Sumo wrestler is to horse jockey.


5 posted on 07/16/2019 2:00:27 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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Hmmm...let’s see:
China
USSR
East Germany (but,curiously enough,not West Germany)
Cuba
Venezuela
North Korea (but,curiously enough,not South Korea)
San Francisco


6 posted on 07/16/2019 2:03:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Comey,Brennan and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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I remember exactly where I was when the Soviet Union collapsed. I had just gotten a tray of food from the Mess Hall and was looking for a table when it came over Armed Forces Network radio. I looked around for the expected outbreak of cheers but there was nothing. I went to a large table and sat down.

\/\/ayne: "Hey, did you guys hear that! The Soviet Union collapsed!"

A Collective "So?"

"Do you guys not understand why we are here in Germany, in the Armed Forces? Who our enemy is? The Soviet Union! We won!"

"I guess so...yeah...ok...I'm getting some desert..."
7 posted on 07/16/2019 2:06:39 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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One unspoken fundamental premise of socialism is the requirement for the destruction of the middle class. It is the primary threat to the ruling “elite”. The political “elite” then give that money to themselves and a few crumbs to the “poor”.


11 posted on 07/16/2019 2:11:47 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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VIDEO: Socialism Is Slavery

(2:42 minutes)
15 posted on 07/16/2019 2:24:51 PM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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Socialism works. It just needs AOC and her brilliance to implement it.

Gibs Me Dat! GIBS ME DAT!


22 posted on 07/16/2019 4:55:37 PM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter)
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Socialism

Is this the hope or the change?

You have two cows. The government takes one and give one to your neighbor.

Communism

You have two cows. The government takes them both and promises you milk but you starve.

Fascism

You have two cows. The government takes them and sells you the milk.

Bureaucracy

You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, and then pours it down the drain.

Capitalism

You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Bain Capitalism

You have two cows. You sell one, force the other to produce the milk of four cows and then act surprised when it drops dead.

Redistributionism

You have two cows. The government taxes you to the point that you must sell them both in order to support someone else who already got a free cow from the government.


23 posted on 07/16/2019 6:23:01 PM PDT by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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Bump


24 posted on 07/16/2019 6:26:10 PM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other DemoKKKrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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Glad to see that Lee is still around and writing so well as he has done for the past 60 years. A real American patriot, too often unsung for his great work in the defense of America and freedom in general.

hey Lee! Remember the great luncheons held by the Council Against Communist Agression/McDowell Luncheon Group, then Accuracy in Media and the later Council for the Defense of Freedom (Marx Lewis, Reed Irvine, Bernie Yoh, etc)?

Proud to have been associated with such a wonderful group of patriots, including yourself.


25 posted on 07/16/2019 9:54:33 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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