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The Arrogance And The Ignorance
Townhall.com ^ | July 14, 2019 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 07/14/2019 5:06:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/14/2019 5:06:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Lefty lemmings are charging toward the 2020 cliff, and I’m loving it!


2 posted on 07/14/2019 5:18:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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So do I.


3 posted on 07/14/2019 5:26:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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We’ll have to wait until next November to find out for sure which way the party will go, but it sure is fun watching them struggle with that question now.

traditionally a party handles division by compromise.       too bad for the dumbocraps: the alexandria-o-crazy crowd are radical leftists smelling total defeat of America.


4 posted on 07/14/2019 5:27:54 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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This new enlightenment is about to hit a wall, here is where the antifa led riots begin right after Trumps landslide victory


5 posted on 07/14/2019 5:30:20 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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6 posted on 07/14/2019 5:33:54 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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“the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color.”

They know those womyn weren’t singled out for their “color”, but that’s what sells in Dummyland. Too bad they didn’t get the memo that said the rest of us are ignoring your race card.


7 posted on 07/14/2019 5:35:48 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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“But Frankenstein’s monster always returns to the castle and destroys it.

As if to prove karma is real, the Gang is now firing down the Democratic Party’s trench. After years of Democratic establishment sitting in the castle, laughing as their social justice warriors burned the town below, they’re now in the castle setting fire to everything.”

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Particularly enjoyed his picturesque descriptions of the situation.


8 posted on 07/14/2019 5:45:24 AM PDT by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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Like most people on the right, I didn’t have to distance myself from the loony left - they stridently marched away from me. Generally it has been good (or at least peaceful) but there is a downside. I can no longer gauge what the rank~and~file leftist is thinking.

Sure, we have no end of printed opinion (or what passes for opinion these days) from the Professional Victim Left, but I don’t believe that they represent the sentiments of the average democrat. I believe that the Professional Victim Left has verbally painted itself into a corner and the run of the mill leftists, although quiet, are nervous about how crazy their party has become.

But I can’t prove any of it because I am the enemy and none will speak to me.


9 posted on 07/14/2019 5:52:43 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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Ignorance is when you learn from a mistake arrogance is when you keep making mistakes thinking you didn’t do it right but keep trying.
That covers the democrat party.


10 posted on 07/14/2019 6:02:25 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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“But the persistent singling out … it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful … the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color.”

The idea that a privileged white Hispanic girl is a “person of color” is laughable. Having a Spanish surname or adhering to the Islamic religion (as is the case with some other newly elected members of Congress) does not impart a skin color. They are all Caucasians by race. And stupid Caucasians, at that.

This new breed of Democrats are the first elected after a lifetime of being inundated with liberal grievance propaganda. ... They demand their way and anything short of absolute acquiescence is seen as an impurity that must be destroyed.

They are emotional and mental children who may not have the emotional intelligence to ever mature. They are the useful idiots cultivated by years of Soviet-inspired indoctrination. I sincerely hope that this is as far as the pendulum will ever swing in this country, because the results if it continues in this direction will be ugly.

11 posted on 07/14/2019 6:04:12 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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bkmk


12 posted on 07/14/2019 6:29:14 AM PDT by sauropod (#FreeTommy)
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An arrogant person can be humbled, an ignorant person can learn. Someone afflicted with a healthy dose of both can’t be told anything.

And now you know why their party symbol is a donkey.

13 posted on 07/14/2019 6:40:03 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (“They are openly planning to murder you. Have a plan to prevent that.”)
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To: Kaslin; Travis McGee; 867V309; ronnie raygun; polymuser; bk1000; Qiviut; rockrr; Vaduz; exDemMom; ..
"...So much of what they know is not so, but they are also gleefully ignorant. They aren’t interested in knowing what they don’t know, and are absolutely closeminded to the idea that anything they know could be wrong..."

I have long believed that one of the biggest problems with Leftists is their lack of introspection.

But I just finished reading Thomas Sowell's superb book "Conflicts of Visions" and have just started his "Visions of The Anointed", and I believe now that the problem is far worse than a "lack of introspection" as this author alluded to in the statement above from his article.

The "lack of introspection" is manifested in something worse, in my opinion: a deliberate and tactical "lack of introspection", which is far more damaging, and worse than a simple character flaw or close-mindedness.

As I have read this article (thank you again, Kaslin, for posting it) and thought about it, it made me realize a fundamental characteristic of the Left that is vital in all ways to their ideology in every issue they both support and attack: their "belief system" (if it can even be called that) demands that they not critically examine any given stance on an issue.

Leftism must be, and is, more close-minded and exclusionary than even the most stolid of fundamental religious dogmas.

But to give credit to the Left that it is even a close-minded religious dogma is giving it too much credit, because I have come to believe it is a mistake that many of us in opposition to Leftism make: we assume that Leftists are well intentioned, and just ignorant of the facts.

While I believe that much is true of many of what I now refer to as "Liberals" (not "Leftists" whom I categorize much differently) Leftists are malignant in their intentions, and are ultimately and fundamentally more interested in control and power than in "helping people" or "doing the right thing".

Leftists like Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and George Soros fully understand that their ideology and its dogmas are hokum for the foot soldiers who are their "cannon fodder".

Their "Liberal" supporters often do believe the incantations and declarations of the Leftists, but people like those I mentioned, have nothing but contempt for their supporters who honestly believe their pap.

The thing that Leftism generates and makes it even worse to the uninitiated and un-clued in subscriber to those Leftist views than even the blindest of the most foreign and malign religious fundamentalists we can imagine, is that it can create enormous cognitive dissonance in those people. It is why introspection, especially critical introspection, is discouraged and even forbidden.

Those un-initiated who drink too deeply of the Leftist vision (the "Vision of the Anointed" as Thomas Sowell refers to it) and then critically examine those visions may be put in a place that most people have a great deal of difficulty coming to grips with-that they are not only wrong, but that they have been lied to and used by others for their own purposes. Just as bad, that the things they have been encouraged and led to believe are the only way to help people are, in the end, harmful to people. And worst of all, they are harmful to people and that the people who led them down the path understand that fully.

In reading Sowell's book "Conflicts of Visions" he mentions how Sir Edmund Burke (1729–1797, who is widely viewed as one of the first to explicitly spell out tenets of modern conservative thought and was widely read by many of the Founders) could not bring himself to believe his Leftist counterparts of the day were anything less than well-intentioned.

They, however, did not extend that same forbearance and courtesy to him, and vilified him (and people who subscribed to his views) as being nearly subhuman ignoramuses. Well, if there is one thing you can say about Leftists their views and tactics are certainly consistent over time.

The thing about AOC and the other leftists like her is that I think she may not be a full-blown Leftist...yet. At this point, she and her ilk may be fledgelings who are more like "ignorant liberals" who have not fully made the transition to the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and George Soros.

In that light, Ocaiso-Cortez and her comrades have served a function to the full Leftists that was beneficial to them, but now that they have turned on their "elders", it could be tough sledding for them going forward.

Personally, the longer this internecine warfare goes on, the better it is for their political opponents, and the country in general, so I fervently wish that to be the case, with them being so hideously annoying to my ear.

But it is well for us to remember that history is replete with people like her who have gained immense power and control by harnessing the anger of ignorant people to her wagon. That is always a danger, and not to be underestimated, no matter how stupid her views and her expression of them are.

14 posted on 07/14/2019 6:45:35 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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I have come to believe it is a mistake that many of us in opposition to Leftism make: we assume that Leftists are well intentioned, and just ignorant of the facts.

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I am past making this mistake .... I totally subscribe to your statement (emphasis mine):

Leftists are malignant in their intentions, and are ultimately and fundamentally more interested in control and power than in "helping people" or "doing the right thing".

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Discussing with a relative just yesterday the depth of the hatred for Trump, a hate that evidently overwhelms & supercedes any level of rational, logical thought process. The only descriptor we could come up with was that it was a malevolent, "satanic" hate and yes, I do believe Satan is involved in this attempted destruction of people/country.

15 posted on 07/14/2019 6:56:41 AM PDT by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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I've always suspected Nancy Pelosi was a racist. She grotesquely underpays the people of color working in her vineyards and keeps them away from her home with walls, gates, and armed guards. Hell, she won't even let them on her lawn.

She sure as heck does single out people of color for degrading treatment, as AOC has pointed out. Way to go, AOC, for once you are serving a useful purpose.
16 posted on 07/14/2019 7:02:31 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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So much of what they know is not so, but they are also gleefully ignorant. They aren’t interested in knowing what they don’t know, and are absolutely close minded to the idea that anything they know could be wrong.


Not just them, but also the most ardent “lean forward” liberals


17 posted on 07/14/2019 7:08:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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I believe that fully as well, Qiviut.

I have decided that once I am finished with “Anointed)I am going to create a thread on Thomas Sowell’s two books “The Vision of the Anointed” (Published 1995) and “A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles” (Published 1987)

These are two books that I have the audiobook, will buy the hardcover, and will also buy the Ebook (so I can mark it up for easy reference) Other books I have like this are “The Road to Serfdom”, “Blacklisted by History”, etc.

I have read many of Sowell’s books, but never these two. I have found that there is much in both of them I have noodled out in exactly the same way on my own, it is encouraging to see that I have come to many of the same conclusions on my own as someone I have held as a hero to me for many years (see my Freep Page) who is exponential levels above me in erudition and understanding.

So far, both are brilliant works.

I haven’t read a lot of books I would characterize as “political science” books, though some like “The Road to Serfdom” counts as one among a few.

But, I am looking for answers. I am sadly puzzled as to how a people (Americans) with a history that should make us all proud and that should give us so much in common, have seemingly become split into two parts that appear to be irreconcilable.

These two books address that exact subject. I can thank Dan Bongino for pointing me to them, because even though I have read many of Sowell’s works on economics and race (which all have elements that shine light on these political divisions) none have focused MORE on this aspect of the ideological differences I see manifested.


18 posted on 07/14/2019 7:17:42 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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I forgot to mention that, yes...I DO believe that Satan does have a hand in this.

If one believes in God, I believe this is an inescapable conclusion.


19 posted on 07/14/2019 7:19:30 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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Progressivism IS a religion.


20 posted on 07/14/2019 10:03:56 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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