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1 posted on 07/03/2019 1:20:29 PM PDT by Kaslin
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In the short term, that’s true, the objective is to cause chaos. That’s because of two leftist strategies, both of which are currently in play.

The first is the fairly well-known Cloward-Piven strategy, which aims to overwhelm the social safety net to bring about economic collapse so that the people will embrace socialism.

The second is the bottom-up/top-down strategy, which aims to create uprisings so they can be put down forcibly, thus bringing the socialist left ever closer to absolute power.

Combine the two and you have current Democrat progressivism.


2 posted on 07/03/2019 1:25:13 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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They’ll never live through the “chaos” stage.


3 posted on 07/03/2019 1:26:30 PM PDT by The Toll
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It’s simpler and more sinister than that, they want a to establish global neo-feudalism via the genocide of the west.


4 posted on 07/03/2019 1:29:13 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING!)
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Civilian gun-owners can’t hope to defeat a modern military intent on simply destroying them,

We don’t have to fight the military. Just a few ornery liberal politicians, perhaps a judge or two, but not the military.


5 posted on 07/03/2019 1:30:10 PM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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Make no mistake: Obama, Hillary, and their cohorts committed some serious crimes of an unprecedented nature
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And will not be prosecuted because the GOP helped with the violation of the Constitution.


7 posted on 07/03/2019 1:31:45 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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I believe that the left is currently promoting chaos with the idea that - even though it is the Dems doing it - the public will associate it with Trump, and try to make it go away by getting rid of Trump. The Dems are purposefully creating a condition of maximum stress, which people find intolerable, and which people will do anything to eliminate. The Dems’ subliminal message is thus: if you want to get rid of all this stress, get rid of Trump. It’s easier to get rid of Trump than to get rid of all the Democrats and all of the media.


9 posted on 07/03/2019 1:35:36 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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necessities were extremely cheap

Sure. And if you don't mind too much standing in lines 10-block long, you'll eventually find out if there are any of those cheap necessities left.

Chaos is primary tactic, not a strategy; that one involves the rapid reduction of population size.
You know, what in the old days we used to call genocide.

10 posted on 07/03/2019 1:36:30 PM PDT by stormhill
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Maos' Cultural Revolution.

Destroy the past to create a glorious future.

14 posted on 07/03/2019 1:43:16 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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In short, they want to a world exactly like what we saw in the Hunger Games novel trilogy: a very rich urban elite and destitute poor everywhere else--essentially modern feudalism.
15 posted on 07/03/2019 1:48:15 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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We see the feudalism, described in the American thinker, already at work even if the Left does not have complete control of America. why do we see unfunny comedians such as Samantha Bee and Trevor Noah et such popular acclaim? Pretty but sophmoric Naomi Wolfe gets her books bought up to give her money she really can’t get on her own.


17 posted on 07/03/2019 1:52:53 PM PDT by Stepan12 (potusm)
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“The worse, the better” was attributed to Lenin iirc.


20 posted on 07/03/2019 2:06:04 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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Do people in politics really ever expect to achieve total victory?

They may have some kind of distant goals, but most of the time they are trying to gain some ground, or avoid losing ground.

The left loves to get more for the various groups that make up their coalition, but do they really envision and expect to achieve some kind of masterplan?

21 posted on 07/03/2019 2:11:14 PM PDT by x
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24 posted on 07/03/2019 2:26:07 PM PDT by Boogieman
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“Chaos” is a tactic. In the “never let a good crisis go to waste” vein; sow chaos, sell a solution. Slightly off-topic, but the d@mned Republicans let’em.


25 posted on 07/03/2019 2:46:39 PM PDT by Churchjack (Color me curmudgeon.)
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Frankfurt School. Herbert Marcuse. Saul Alinsky.

They have not been shy about telling us their purposes.


26 posted on 07/03/2019 2:49:05 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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They need the chaos so that the current system fails, and they can step in with their version of making things work again - I heard Prager say something very interesting recently in a talk he was giving, when he observed that what most people want is not necessarily freedom, but in fact to be taken care of - and if things get bad enough the majority may gladly abandon their rights under a free government in order to have someone take over who promises to take care of them and make sure their basic needs, including security, are met........


27 posted on 07/03/2019 2:53:46 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Okay, I’ll buy all that.

But what is our plan?

The time is now (actually, past time) to nip their diabolical plans in the bud. Otherwise it will be near impossible when their planned chaos comes to pass.

By now everyone should realize that simply getting the ‘right’ politicians in there doesn’t get the job done.

A real plan obviously cannot be put up on a public forum.


33 posted on 07/03/2019 3:42:20 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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The left wants to destroy the USA and create some new socialist utopia. They think they’ll somehow come out on top when CW2 breaks out.


35 posted on 07/03/2019 3:46:00 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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37 posted on 07/03/2019 4:00:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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When they talk about a living Constitution what they really mean is that they want it to die. They don’t want chaos they want iron-fist control. They don’t want liberty they want conformity. They are not humanistic they are Darwinistic, they want the weak to be at the mercy of the powerful.


39 posted on 07/03/2019 4:15:55 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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