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To: DiogenesLamp
If he was a "horrid" candidate, why did he get more votes than Richard Shelby, who is the other Senator from Alabama?

Immaterial. He got fewer than Doug Jones.

Do you really believe that half of Trump's voters are going to toss the race to the Democrat because they hate Moore?

Entirely possible. Look what happened in Texas and Arizona... both GOP governors won by big margins last November, but the AZ GOP Senatorial candidate lost and Cruz came perilously close to losing to Beto O'Rourke. So yes... voters do separate and discriminate down-ballot.

I realize many here in FR want Moore on the ballot, win or lose... I got that. I'd rather have control of the Senate.

67 posted on 06/26/2019 7:32:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The most urgent gathering threat to America: the Democrat Party)
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To: ScottinVA
Immaterial. He got fewer than Doug Jones.

It is not immaterial, you just want to ignore the fact because it undermines your claim that he was a "horrid" candidate.

The numbers prove quite accurately that he was a perfectly fine candidate that was subjected to a level of attack that has never been seen before 2017 for a single Senate race.

Entirely possible. Look what happened in Texas and Arizona... both GOP governors won by big margins last November, but the AZ GOP Senatorial candidate lost and Cruz came perilously close to losing to Beto O'Rourke. So yes... voters do separate and discriminate down-ballot.

You are oversimplifying what happened in Arizona. Sheriff Joe Arpaio cost us that race by refusing to get out, and he split the Republican vote, so they ended up with McSally, whom many Republican voters didn't trust and didn't like. They correctly saw her as a backstabbing Rino in the mold of John McCain, and simply didn't want her.

You are also oversimplifying what happened in Texas. Not only did a lot of Republicans have it in for Cruz because Trump labeled him "Lying Ted" and viciously attacked him during the Presidential campaign, but once again, the entire Democrat party across the nation was working very hard to take out Cruz. They were highly motivated because again, they wanted to Rebuke the election of Trump, and they also hated Cruz.

Cruz would have done much better if Trump hadn't been so successful in spreading that "Lying Ted" crap. Even today, there are many freepers that go nuts when you mention Ted Cruz, and will start ranting about him.

And in both cases, it wasn't a Presidential election. The Republican turnout would have been heavily boosted in both states had it been a Presidential election, and the result in Arizona would have flipped.

I realize many here in FR want Moore on the ballot, win or lose... I got that. I'd rather have control of the Senate.

I would too, but I think people have just been dastardly to Moore, and he didn't deserve the treatment he got from his "allies."

I think whomever wins the Republican nomination will win the race, and I think 700,000 is about the tippy tip top of what the Democrats can manage in Alabama in 2020.

Trump is going to get at least 1.3 million, and whomever is on the Republican ticket will get 85-95% of that same vote.

74 posted on 06/26/2019 8:07:45 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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