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NYT Editorial Writer So Lame on Immigration, Even Trump-Trashing David Frum Objected!
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/25/2019 6:00:31 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

How does a liberal know that her open-borders arguments are a bust? When even David Frum — David Frum! — has to step in.

On the Monday edition Ari Melber's MSNBC show The Beat, New York Times editorial board member Mara Gay made a two-pronged argument in favor of allowing countless Central Americans to enter the US: One, violence is rampant in those countries; and two, in any case, people should be admitted who are fleeing "domestic violence."

Frum eviscerated both arguments. First, he pointed out that — contrary to Gay's claim of unchecked violence — the homicide rate in Central America has actually declined by two-thirds since 2011 and thus "the rate of migration has nothing to do with levels of violence in Central America."

[snip]

Frum concluded (emphasis mine):

"The asylum system is not supposed to be a response to troubling people in societies. It’s a response to persecution. That is, the authorities are coming for you.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: arimelber; davidfrum; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; immigration; maragay; mediawingofthednc; msnbc; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine

1 posted on 06/25/2019 6:00:31 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: miss marmelstein; patro; abb; SE Mom; HarleyLady27; connyankee; Behind Liberal Lines; ...

This shameless open-borders advocate from the NY Times should realize her arguments stink when David Frum—of all people!—trashes them!

Ping to Liberal Media Criticism list.


2 posted on 06/25/2019 6:01:48 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReep mail me to be added to my Liberal Media Criticism ping list.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The welfare of the migrants is totally irrelevant.
The purpose of immigration is to serve the interests of the Republic and its Citizens, not the immigrants.
What do these invaders bring with them that the Republic and its citizens need or want?
As far as I can tell, the vast majority bring NOTHING.


3 posted on 06/25/2019 6:13:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

We need The List, pronto!

The list goes like this -
1) southern barrier;
2) require eVerify to hire;
3) end all chain migration;
4) birthright per Minor v. Happersett (plural parents);
5) end work visas;
6) 10-year moratorium on all new applications for citizenship (40 years to allow workplace automation effects on downsizing population)
7) demonstrate English proficiency to acquire citizenship and pass civics test.

Enactment of these provisions will motivate illegal aliens to SELF-deport.

Also consider reciprocation of the laws of the countries of origin of the illegal aliens. For example, Mexico doesn’t allow land ownership or voting to immigrants, and doesn’t honor birthright citizenship like its citizens expect from the U.S. We should offer the same deal to them.


4 posted on 06/25/2019 6:27:34 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“...violence is rampant in those countries; and two, in any case, people should be admitted who are fleeing “domestic violence.”

So by this “logic”, open the gates to people who have created a society of rampant and domestic violence, because they’ll quit doing all that if we let them in. Honestly, the “thought process” of liberals astounds me. There is no such thing as a “bad neighborhood”, only bad neighbors.


5 posted on 06/25/2019 6:38:17 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: RideForever

End government assistance programs.
End free school for illegals and their children.


6 posted on 06/25/2019 6:45:02 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: bk1000
Got that right. We are deliberately importing people who are involved in violence because most are violent people involved in a violent lifestyle. Their violence is not going to stop when they get here and that has been proving out in practice. The Central American illegals are proving to a predisposition towards senseless hyper violence, especially in the areas of sexual assault that is far worse than anything we see in the Mexican community. Their gangs, such as MS13, are known for their penchants for hair trigger violence and horrific atrocities for no good reason.

And yet they are being actively recruited come to the US

Why?

Perhaps a telling interview with one of the first wave of caravaners might shed some light. When asked why all of the Central Americans were suddenly flooding the border the answer he gave was, “ we are coming for a better life. Of course, we all know that America is a very racist, unfair and unequal place, but we are coming to change all of that”

7 posted on 06/25/2019 7:16:17 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

When one of the original apologists for the Cheap Labor Express thinks you’ve gone too far........


8 posted on 06/25/2019 7:56:55 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
DAVID FRUM - broken clock - blind squirrel etc... etc.
9 posted on 06/25/2019 8:38:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (United States being invaded and the ONLY thing democrats care about is the comfort of the invaders?)
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To: RideForever

Tattoo the ones we catch and deport. If they come back and we catch them again with a tattoo, they don’t get deported, they get executed.

That will stop some of this nonsense real quick.


10 posted on 06/25/2019 9:12:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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