Posted on 06/20/2019 12:30:02 PM PDT by rdl6989
how do you guys that defend RM know he DID NOT scope out teen girls? He did not do a very good job denying it. “ I always asked their mothers first” is NOT a denial.
He denied some, but not all. and that is creepy behavior for a 30 something old man.
Stick to something you know. It damn sure isn’t Alabama politics. You’re ignorant on this matter.
There is no way I will be voting for Roy Moore. There are many more in Alabama just like me.
The operative principle of the Declaration of Independence is that Independence is a right bestowed by God, and man made law cannot challenge it.
Now what were you saying about man made law?
But more important, the defense of state’s right to slavery violated every spirit of the Declaration, including the Natural Law it was based upon.
This is an oft repeated lie. When the Declaration of Independence was signed, every state was a slave state. Thomas Jefferson, who wrote the document, didn't even free his own slaves. This idea of applying that "all men are created equal" clause to the slavery is a later day manipulation of the verbiage to serve a later agenda than what the Declaration was created to serve.
The Declaration is about Independence and nothing else. In fact, it lists as one of the grievances against King George III:
"He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us..."
Which specifically refers to Britain's efforts to start slave revolts by promising freedom to the slaves. See Lord Dunmore's Proclamation."
So no, the Declaration of Independence was not referring to freedom for slaves in any shape or form, and as I said, that was a later day invention to provide support for the subsequently popular abolition movement, but it is not in fact a correct reading of what the founders intended when the Declaration was written.
And yes, Slavery violates natural law, but again, that's not what the Declaration of Independence was created to say.
Just carrying out the implications of that document meant a civil war was inevitable.
If the document is understood accurately, it means that any people have a right to be free of their existing government. When the South seceded, those people exercised that right specified in the Declaration of Independence, and those who fought against them violated that right.
Some of us still remember, and what he did was pure evil. Calling members of your own party "racist" is just wrong, especially when it is a bald faced lie.
That's dirty politics of the lowest and worst sort.
There are at least 651,000 who are not like you, and I dare say you will likely be the rump protest vote if Moore wins the nomination.
Maybe you see helping the Democrat as a good thing, but this view is beyond me.
Not at all, I just see no further point to engaging with you because you have clearly conveyed the impression that your mind is made up and it is futile for me to attempt to sway your opinion.
And you apparently did everything you could to make it a self fulfilling prophecy.
I wouldn't be bragging about helping the enemy.
Refer to my previous post, moron.
You are going to have to clarify what you mean here. In what manner did Moore "repeatedly damage his own reputation over the course of decades?"
Did they convince him to take a trip to Pennsylvania the critical final weekend of the campaign?
I believe that straw has been grasped so many times someone could make a haystack out of it. It always bewilders me why some people put such heavy emphasis on this as if this was a significant cause of his loss.
I really can't understand why anyone thinks one more day of campaigning a few days before the election would have made any significant difference, but I guess some of you out there have no real experience with political campaigns and have no grasp that by this time period in question, virtually everyone already has their minds made up, and attempting to sway them at that point is just futile.
I guess when you are trying to lay the blame on the guy you hate, you have to seize on trivial crap like this because you have nothing else to throw at him.
Moore lost specificially because the lying media spread unprovable accusations of a serious nature against Moore. The media warped the public mind in that election, and *THAT* is the single significant cause of the loss.
I would also add that the national party officials backstabbing him was also a cause of the loss, but then the national party officials backstabbing him was also a result of the media propagation of lies, so it all comes back to the enemy forces in control of mass communications which caused this and many other losses to Republican candidates. (Such as George Allen in Virginia.)
Unless the media weapon system spent weeks portraying potato chip guy as a child molesting rapist, and then he would have lost.
Put the blame where it belongs. The media spread these lies specifically because they are partisan operatives for the Democrat party.
My own personal opinion as to why the media are partisan operatives of the Democrat party is because most of them are headquartered in New York city (A city that voted for Obama at 89% of the vote) and they and their social peers reap a lot of the rewards from Washington DC's excessive money spending policies, as well as the fact that virtually everyone in a position of power in the media industry is married to, or blood related to Democrat party office holders.
But let us not forget that the media is a lying enemy propaganda system, and they have caused us many losses by creating fake scandals with which to damage Republican candidates.
This scandal they created with Moore is the same playbook they attempted to use with Brett Kavanaugh, but the Republican elites decided to defend Kavanaugh, while they deliberately threw Moore to the wolves because they do not like him.
I knew last time. He’s been cluster-disaster every time he sticks his nose in something. There are many that voted for him last time that said there is no way they would do it again. He’s been great for democrats.
This was in an Alabama newspaper yesterday:
“Like when he was kicked off the Alabama Supreme Court the first time, for disrespecting the higher courts, or the second time, for again refusing to abide by the rule of law. Like the time he was drubbed in a primary for governor by Bob Riley, or the next time, when he finished fourth in another primary to Bradley Byrne, Robert Bentley and Tim James.”
He’s not going to get elected but he would like for you to send money. Seems running for office is all he’s ever done to make money.
That comes up far short of things I’ve heard over many years. There’s a lot more I could say about Roy Moore but I don’t care to waste time.
“how do you guys that defend RM know he DID NOT scope out teen girls? He did not do a very good job denying it. “ I always asked their mothers first” is NOT a denial.
He denied some, but not all. and that is creepy behavior for a 30 something old man.”
Despite the Trump situation, proving innocence is not really how things are supposed to work in our system. Moore did indeed try to date YOUNG WOMEN, with their mother’s permission. Let me tell you a little secret, child molesters do not stop their behavior. Ever. Moore was looking for a wife, which he eventually found and has been married to her for decades with not a blemish on his record. I have dated women many years younger than me. It may be “creepy” to you, but apparently it was not to the women voluntarily involved. Perspective is everything. The accusations about 13 and 14 year olds are complete fabrications, as is the one sexual assault accusation.
In fact, it is for the very reason that he showed the courage necessary to defy those Federal judges and his own cowardly judiciary in Alabama that I wanted him to win that election.
So far as i'm concerned, that defiance wins a lot of support from me which offsets any of his other failings.
But at this point I wish he wouldn't run because I see it just causing a lot more dissent in the party. The media liars did too good of a job propagandizing against him, and he's damaged politically.
But I will support whatever the people of Alabama decide.
I don’t believe any state employee has the right to unilaterally decide to place a 5000 monument in the center of a state building.
That sounds like a management issue, not a legal one. I do not know to what extent the Chief Justice has control over their building, but if it lies within his power to put up such interior decorations as he prefers, then i'm fine with it.
I think that is a trivial reason to oppose what he did. I for one have long wanted a confrontation between states and tyrannical Federal Judiciary that makes up fake "laws."
If the people don't push back, how will we ever convince the Judiciary to restrain their insanity?
All that aside, here’s the deal ...
Doug Jones will be the democrat’s nominee.
Democrats in Alabama will vote for Roy Moore in the Republican primary so that he will be the Republican opponent to Doug Jones in the general election. That’s how they do it. They want to force Republicans to choose Jones or Moore. I’ve heard enough about Roy Moore over the years to where I would not want to vote for him. I certainly couldn’t vote for the democrat. There are way too many people like me in Alabama.
There are other conservative republicans running that would smear any democrat running. Why even risk giving the seat to democrats for another 6 years?
Why on earth do you allow an open primary? Such a thing is ripe for this sort of abuse.
There are other conservative republicans running that would smear any democrat running. Why even risk giving the seat to democrats for another 6 years?
I agree. I consider the Moore candidacy to be an unnecessary risk, and I wish he wouldn't do it.
But I also understand his reasons why he feels that he must. I too would want to be exonerated after feeling so much undeserved humiliation and betrayal.
Not yet but keep helping him and he might.
Trump gains absolutely no votes by jumping in this race and he risks losing Moore supporters.
Nothing is gained by the blathering propagandists invading these Moore threads either.
Why on earth do you allow an open primary? Such a thing is ripe for this sort of abuse.
I cannot stand open primaries. It makes little sense to me.
“Did he make the announcement in Alabama or in Pennsylvania?”
LOL!
Did he also ride a horse to the site of the announcement?
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