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Lawmakers spar at testy Mueller hearing
The Hill ^ | 06/20/19 | Morgan Chalfant

Posted on 06/20/2019 10:25:04 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

A House Judiciary Committee hearing turned heated on Thursday as Republicans accused Democrats of wasting time examining Robert Mueller’s report on Russian election interference, with one GOP lawmaker labeling the hearing a “farce.”

Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) called the hearing to get expert testimony on the first volume of Mueller’s report, which describes Russia’s “sweeping and systematic” efforts to interfere in the 2016 election and catalogues well over 100 contacts between Moscow and members or associates of the Trump campaign.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) gave a sharp rebuke of the hearing during his questioning, suggesting Nadler was wasting time by inviting witnesses without any direct knowledge of the investigation.

Gaetz asked Nadler whether he is going to subpoena Mueller, who has telegraphed a reluctance to testify publicly before Congress despite Democrats’ efforts to bring him in.

“Chairman, are you going to subpoena Robert Mueller?” Gaetz asked.

“I’m not going to answer that at this time,” Nadler replied.

“Do any of the witnesses here have personal knowledge of the truth or falsity of a single material fact in the report?” Gaetz asked the panel of experts. “No witnesses have raised their hands.”

Nadler vehemently pushed back, noting that the White House has blocked material witnesses such as former White House counsel Don McGahn from testifying before the committee, an argument echoed by other Democrats.

On Wednesday, the committee held a closed-door interview with President Trump’s former longtime aide Hope Hicks, who lawmakers said refused to answer questions about her work in the Trump administration on instructions from the White House that she is immune from compelled congressional testimony.

“The person over whom the White House can assert no privilege is Robert Mueller,” Gaetz countered.

Gaetz ridiculed the hearing and said it should have been called “hot takes from the Mueller report.” He went on to instead train his questions on border security, leading to criticism from Democrats who said he was departing from the subject matter of the hearing.

Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) expressed frustration during his questions, accusing the White House of preventing the committee from learning from material witnesses who spoke to the special counsel, like Hicks.

“This administration has tried to assert this blanket immunity that doesn’t exist,” Deutsch said.

“It is obstruction, plain and simple. Yesterday Ms. Hicks could not even answer whether she told the truth to the Mueller team because the president’s lawyers objected to the question,” he continued.

The committee is expected to issue a transcript of Hicks’s closed-door interview sometime later this week (Friday?), which will offer more details on the scope of the questions and those she did and did not answer.

Lawmakers could ultimately go to court to civilly enforce the subpoenas they have issued for testimony from witnesses. Nadler has said he intends to do so with respect to the subpoena for testimony from McGahn.

Nadler could also challenge the White House’s immunity argument in court.

The House Judiciary and Intelligence committees have pressed forward with hearings on Mueller’s report despite not having yet secured a deal for testimony from Mueller himself.

Thursday’s hearing was the Judiciary Committee’s second focused on the findings of the special counsel’s investigation.

It laid bare the continuing political divide over Mueller’s report. Democrats say its findings – particularly with respect to obstruction of justice — are troubling and warrant further investigation. Republicans, meanwhile, say Trump was vindicated after Mueller did not ultimately charge members of the his campaign with conspiring with Russia, declaring the case closed.

The back-and-forth arguments on Thursday overshadowed some of the testimony from the witnesses, who emphasized the grave threat of foreign interference to future U.S. elections.

Nadler has said he will subpoena Mueller to deliver public testimony if he refuses to testify voluntarily, but has not offered any specific timeline.

Meanwhile, Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that Mueller will have to testify – either voluntarily or under subpoena – describing his 10-minute statement last month, the only public comments he’s made since his report’s release, as insufficient to answer lawmakers’ questions.

“He is going to have to testify,” Schiff said at the National Press Club. “I also think time and patience are running out on that front.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaetz; hopehicks; mueller; nadler
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1 posted on 06/20/2019 10:25:04 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

The RATS just cannot deal with reality. Such unhinged hate.


2 posted on 06/20/2019 10:26:22 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: yesthatjallen

The selected leaks are making their way out of the theatrical production.


3 posted on 06/20/2019 10:27:50 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: yesthatjallen

>>>“It is obstruction, plain and simple. Yesterday Ms. Hicks could not even answer whether she told the truth to the Mueller team because the president’s lawyers objected to the question,” he continued.<<<

Because the President’s Lawyers know a Perjury trap when they see one.


4 posted on 06/20/2019 10:28:45 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

She did such a great job. I can imagine how her friends described what she did to the RATS in that kabuki theater.


5 posted on 06/20/2019 10:33:19 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

They ain’t got nuttin, FTA:

“Do any of the witnesses here have personal knowledge of the truth or falsity of a single material fact in the report?” Gaetz asked the panel of experts. “No witnesses have raised their hands.”


6 posted on 06/20/2019 10:36:58 AM PDT by libstripper (q)
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To: yesthatjallen

Donald Trump is not guilty of obstruction of justice.

He is “guilty” of obstruction of INJUSTICE.

As another poster put it, he’s not guilty of horse thieving, but he is guilty of trying to avoid being hanged for it.


7 posted on 06/20/2019 10:37:25 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: yesthatjallen

The GOP member should refuse to show up at these kangaroo court hearings


8 posted on 06/20/2019 10:39:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Yes, perjury trap is their plan. Have Hicks and McGahn testify, then spring Mueller to contradict them. Gaetz and the WH should offer testimony only after open testimony by Mueller.


9 posted on 06/20/2019 10:43:21 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: yesthatjallen

Democrats know that there was nothing to the collusion charges. They also know that there was no obstruction.

They’re just trying to keep Trump on his heels and keeping him from feeling comfortable in carrying on the business of the presidency. They can’t allow him to get anything else done as president which he can then use during the 2020 campaign as another accomplishment in the long list of accomplishments. The strong U.S. economy is the worst enemy of the democrats, and they can’t have any more of that kind of accomplishment. Success cannot be allowed, therefore, they must carry on with their harassment of the president.


10 posted on 06/20/2019 10:44:36 AM PDT by adorno
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"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition "!


11 posted on 06/20/2019 10:49:45 AM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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Pencil-neck, Chicken Cohen and Nutless Nadler.

What a bunch of clowns.


12 posted on 06/20/2019 10:49:47 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: yesthatjallen

I call it the Nadler dog and pony show.


13 posted on 06/20/2019 10:55:33 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Nadler woman and donkey show is more like it.


14 posted on 06/20/2019 11:18:05 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: yesthatjallen

Who is going to tell Nadler that he is the last person on earth still obsessed with the Mueller report?


15 posted on 06/20/2019 11:22:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Kickass Conservative

Invoking the 5th Amendment is not obstruction. Asking a witness under oath if she lied in other testimony under oath? The whole thing is a trap hopefully the Dems get caught in it.


16 posted on 06/20/2019 1:40:31 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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