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To: Innovative

You are absolutely right. People will try to get us angry and acting like them. This country has been going downhill during my whole lifetime. 1965 was the biggest turning point with Griswald vs Conn and the legalization of birth control pills. That changed the landscape of morality and attitudes in our country. And it was allowed to slip by uncontested. As long as that is legal we are doomed, IMHO


22 posted on 06/15/2019 9:36:35 AM PDT by RichardMoore (Without the protection of life all other right are void, dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: RichardMoore

I am still hopeful that people will wake up, before it is too late. The election of Trump is an indication, but we have to keep fighting.


24 posted on 06/15/2019 9:39:09 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: RichardMoore

I imagine you don’t see much medical use regarding hormonal contraceptives? I had a cycle that required multiple blood transfusions due to a loss of blood (1 liter daily) and which had previously lasted 14 months. Transfusions are not good for transplant recipients. Nor are monster ovarian cysts (larger than the ovary itself) when the surgical option is not a good one. If you have been pelted in the plums at any point, the nerves connected to the ovaries are the same nerve endings a man has connected to the gonads, and I had to deal with that pain for months before they finally put me on hormonal contraceptives to shrink the cyst when it wouldn’t shrink on its own. Ovarian cysts normally disappear in a week or burst. That didn’t happen, because my body just hates me, I suppose.

Contraceptives are used to control the menstrual cycle, manage acne, and the emotional instability that comes with a menstrual cycle. They are also sometimes given to breast, uterine, fallopian, and ovarian cancer patients to create hormonal stability where it has otherwise been lost or needs balancing.

I suppose endometrial ablation, tubal ligation (reversible) and vasectomies (reversible) should also be banned then, if we’re speaking solely on the terms of those surgeries causing loose morals.

Some of us are capable of self-control and are responsible. I have had two partners in my lifetime with one being my current husband, and the other having been a fiancée. Sadly, he did not have as much self-control as I did.


48 posted on 06/15/2019 10:39:40 AM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: RichardMoore
That changed the landscape of morality and attitudes in our country. And it was allowed to slip by uncontested. As long as that is legal we are doomed, IMHO

I totally agree. The slippery slope started when you could have sex purely for pleasure and without any consequences. While premarital sex may or may not be a "perversion," once that horse had bolted from the barn, the door was open for every other perversion under the sun to become normalized.

First it was "leave us alone in the privacy of our bedrooms." That, of course, quickly led to "we'll do whatever we want whenever and wherever we want." Which, in no time at all, morphed into "You MUST accept anything we do AND you must like it -- PRIDE!"

The other big factors were WW I and WW II. Women began working outside the home in huge numbers to feed the war machines which led to it being acceptable for kids to be raised without their biological parents present. Those wars irreparably changed our attitudes toward many things. Mark Steyn wrote in "America, Alone" that the wars ushered in nihilism and fatalism which made people not care about the future and their progeny. Fertility rates in many European countries dropped far below replacement, hence triggering the importation of ignorant third-world labor which is an unmitigated disaster.

61 posted on 06/15/2019 11:44:49 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: RichardMoore

I agree that 1965 was the turning point but for different reasons. The son-of-a-bitch named Lyndon Baynes Johnson started it all with his policies.


84 posted on 06/15/2019 2:48:43 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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