[Governor Dinwiddie]

I've personally known Saudis, and I've personally known Iranians. Iranians are far more civilized and westernized than Saudis. The Iranian leadership is batsh*t crazy, but the people are pretty normal. The Saudi leadership is batsh*t crazy and the people are batsh*t crazy.
 

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

The curse of the Saudis is that they could be a very civilized, productive people if they didn’t have a strain of Islam that is “barbaric” and expansionist.

The curse of Iran is that they have a very educated population for the most part, but their religious/political leaders are psychopaths in the name of Allah and they want a nuclear bomb(s) and will do anything to get it (thanks to Russia, Red China, No. Korea and possibly Pakistan).

Like the old Stealers Wheel song goes, “Stuck in the middle with you” and no way out.

[Cronos]

Governor got it perfectly correct - encapsulating the problem Iranians are far more civilized and westernized than Saudis. The Iranian leadership is batsh*t crazy, but the people are pretty normal. The Saudi leadership is batsh*t crazy and the people are batsh*t crazy.

The problem I see with war with Iran is, like the Iran-Iraq war, it gives the bats* Ayatollahs a chance to stay longer, playing the patriotic card