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Mexico aims to avoid tariffs with potential deal limiting migrants going north, allowing...deport...
Washington Post ^ | June 6 2019 | by Nick Miroff , David J. Lynch and Kevin Sieff

Posted on 06/06/2019 12:23:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Mexico aims to avoid tariffs with potential deal limiting migrants going north, allowing U.S. to deport Central American asylum seekers

U.S. and Mexican officials are discussing the outlines of a deal that would dramatically increase Mexico’s immigration enforcement efforts and give the United States far more latitude to deport Central Americans seeking asylum, according to a U.S. official and a Mexican official who cautioned that the accord is not finalized and that President Trump might not accept it.

Faced with Trump’s threat to impose escalating tariffs on Mexican goods beginning Monday, Mexican officials have pledged to deploy up to 6,000 National Guard troops to the country’s border region with Guatemala, a show of force they say will make immediate reductions in the number of Central Americans heading north toward the U.S. border.

The Mexican official and the U.S. official said the countries are negotiating a sweeping plan to overhaul asylum rules across the region, a move that would require Central Americans to seek refuge in the first foreign country they set foot upon after fleeing their homeland.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agreedpreviously; alieninvasion; aliens; asylumseekers; caravans; mexico; migrants; notnew; olddeal; tariffs; trump
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To: Jim Robinson

Does anyone remember the scene in The Terminator (I) where Kyle is in the police station and he asks, “Who’s in authority here?”

If one postulates that Mexico is a failed state ruled by an oligarchy of cartels, corporations, and regular government, one has to ask, “Who are we negotiating with? Who has power here?”

It seems pretty clear that the cartels make a ton of money by transporting people to the US border, and that the government looks the other way. Whether its out of leftist ideology (US for all) or venal corruption, doesn’t really make a difference.

Its also obvious that many of the people who are being transported don’t have the money to pay up front, and are indebted to the cartels, pledging to pay them off once they get jobs and/or welfare money. Such a pledge creates an infection of the US that’s greater than just monetary. The connection with the cartels isn’t going to go away easily or completely after payment. They have the illegal’s name, and the names of his family back home. It’s not just money... its connections, safe-passage addresses, networking... you name it.

And, I’d bet long odds that this money, much of it ultimately coming from the US taxpayer, is used to bribe American government officials as well as Mexicans.

Trump’s move with tariffs is economically stupid, but tactically necessary. You put in tariffs to protect your own industries, not as a short term punishment or club, economically speaking. But, if a patriotic President is thwarted at every turn by a corrupt and ideologically blind opposition party and judiciary, he has to use the tools that are left to him. Grassley, are you listening?

What a mess! The only thing I could see working is a serious border closing, which would involve militarization and some unpleasant incidents that the media would dramatize. Maybe declaring a health emergency, after a few large scale epidemics or terrorist incidents might tip public opinion. Clearly, random murders, overwhelmed cities, and occasional disease outbreaks don’t seem to be enough.


21 posted on 06/06/2019 12:54:34 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Jim Robinson
Its A Trap GIF - StarWars AdmiralAckbar ItsATrap GIFs
22 posted on 06/06/2019 1:00:30 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Mariner

I think Mexico gave a copy of their counter offer to the WP so then can try to soften up Trump’s demands. I doubt this is an acceptable deal as is. Lot’s of sausage grinding left to do.


23 posted on 06/06/2019 1:02:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Just slow down Mexico. Congress is negotiating for you...


24 posted on 06/06/2019 1:16:59 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m certain that judge from Hawaii will put a block of the tariffs in 3...2...1...


25 posted on 06/06/2019 1:20:20 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Jim Robinson

Mexico has probably agreed to
becoming a “safe third country.
Something they were opposed to
in the past.


26 posted on 06/06/2019 1:20:33 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: A strike

Your post cracks me up: You typed “he11” to avoid using the word “hell,” but have no problem typing “shithole” — twice. LOL.


27 posted on 06/06/2019 1:24:33 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

And you ‘point’?


28 posted on 06/06/2019 1:26:01 PM PDT by A strike (Import third world become third world)
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To: tcrlaf

I saw a news flash they froze the accounts of a bunch of people today as well, the mexicans did.


29 posted on 06/06/2019 1:28:32 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes.

But it’s indicative of Mexico’s willingness to comply.

They are in retreat.

We will get what we want from them.


30 posted on 06/06/2019 1:30:33 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: lodi90

Also, Trump made the point to Mexico that its own national sovereignty is being overthrown by these floods of people from other places streaming across Mexico. And they’re not just Central Americans, but Africans and Middle Easterners who get smuggled into Central America and then cross the border and head north.

The Mexicans themselves don’t like it and I think this is actually giving AMLO cover for getting more serious about his own border enforcement.


31 posted on 06/06/2019 1:39:59 PM PDT by livius
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To: central_va

That’s what I say. Take a summer vacation. Come back. I want those tariffs to BITE! I want to feel the fur between my jaws!


32 posted on 06/06/2019 1:42:12 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: Kevin in California

I wonder how many refugees Hawaii has taken in.

Yeah, just as I thought:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/29/less-1-us-refugees-brought-hawaii-2010-state-dept/


33 posted on 06/06/2019 1:45:47 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: ichabod1

It’s only 5% of $135B which is nothing really but it is a good start!!!


34 posted on 06/06/2019 1:45:49 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ichabod1

They have at one Jap who is a senator


35 posted on 06/06/2019 1:47:27 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: SierraWasp
Seriously, I get so sick of hearing the defeatist on these threads that swarm to hang the albatross around Trumps neck. Its like that whiny version of Bill Pullman from Aliens II...


36 posted on 06/06/2019 1:49:23 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: SierraWasp

Sorry, Bill Paxton...


37 posted on 06/06/2019 1:50:37 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Jim Robinson

Its time to do what President Eisenhower did in the early 1950’s to curb the illegal alien problem:

Arrest a minimum of 100,000 illegals and don’t release them at the border - put them on ships and send them back to Veracruz. Confiscate ALL of their US held assets - financial accounts, cars, homes, ALL PROPERTY. Within a year, millions more illegals will self-deport.

It worked in the 1950’s and would go a LONG way to solve the illegal alien problem again today.


38 posted on 06/06/2019 2:01:54 PM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: central_va

It’s enough, believe me. I mean it’s enough to take some bucks out of some fat cats pockets that they would otherwise have expected to be there and that will get their attention. Taking it to 10% on July 10 will make it start to HURT.


39 posted on 06/06/2019 2:07:27 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: antidemoncrat
I’m sure they will make a weak effort to slow illegal immigration for a couple of weeks and then just continue to help them along.

Yep.

40 posted on 06/06/2019 2:14:51 PM PDT by truthkeeper (All Trump Has Going for Him is the Votes)
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