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Ted Cruz throws support behind Steven Crowder: 'YouTube is not the Star Chamber'
The Hill ^ | 06/06/19 | Joe Concha

Posted on 06/06/2019 8:31:59 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: Its All Over Except ...
it would be a sin to refuse service to the Son of God, Jesus.

Must all sins be illegal? ALL lying? ALL swearing ... even in private?

41 posted on 06/06/2019 11:02:39 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

In the end, there are some areas I will not cross, and thus while some may argue that they have a right to gay marriage I would not be the one who (if it went the constitutional amendment route to legalize it) to be the final yes vote in say yes in the final state legislature of 1 of 38 state legislatures to allow it.

Secondly, given the way the world is headed with identitarians 1.) wanting to have black-only seminars and conferences at universities (even among faculty) where white people are not allowed and 2.) some owners of restaurants wanting to admit only white people (if they argued that) I would be against both.


42 posted on 06/06/2019 11:06:36 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: NobleFree

The sin of abortion?

Yes.

The sin of murder?

Yes.

The sin of gay marriage?

Yes.

The sin of child abuse?

Yes.

The sin of pedophilia?

Yes.

The sin of prostitution?

Yes.


43 posted on 06/06/2019 11:08:54 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Must all sins be illegal? ALL lying? ALL swearing ... even in private?

The sin of abortion?

Yes. [...]

I notice that in all those words you didn't answer the question.

44 posted on 06/06/2019 11:20:41 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: DoodleDawg

Nothing personal, but that really is a thoughtless kneejerk reply.


45 posted on 06/06/2019 11:20:56 AM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
1.) wanting to have black-only seminars and conferences at universities (even among faculty) where white people are not allowed and 2.) some owners of restaurants wanting to admit only white people (if they argued that) I would be against both.

So you're a big-government "conservative". Got it.

46 posted on 06/06/2019 11:22:22 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Theo

What was incorrect in what I said?


47 posted on 06/06/2019 11:24:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: NobleFree

No, I am a mamber of the Big Jesus Party as only He will keep this country from going headlong into socialism, polyamorous marriage, pedophilia, polygamous gay marriage, legalized prostitution and on and on.

And secondly, I am just as against a shop owner banning white people form eating in his restaurant as I would be a shop owner banning black people from eating in it as both would be the sin of racism.

Another reason why I am not for Black Lives Matter but instead support All Lives Matter.


48 posted on 06/06/2019 11:27:32 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: DoodleDawg

Yes, they are a private company. But just being a private company is not sufficient an excuse to abuse certain people. At some point they become so large and ubiquitous that it may become appropriate for the government to regulate it as they would a monopoly.

And then there’s the question of whether they are a platform, or a publisher. It makes a difference: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/twitter-needs-to-decide-if-its-a-platform-or-a-publisher

In the end, it really is just too simplistic to brush aside this abuse by saying that “they’re a private company.”


49 posted on 06/06/2019 11:31:42 AM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
I am just as against a shop owner banning white people form eating in his restaurant as I would be a shop owner banning black people from eating in it as both would be the sin of racism.

Like I said - big government. When government gets into sin, it at least as often mandates it (e.g. abortion) as prevents it.

50 posted on 06/06/2019 11:31:55 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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But just being a private company is not sufficient an excuse to abuse certain people.

But it does give them the right to set their own standards so long as they don't violate anti-discrimination laws.

At some point they become so large and ubiquitous that it may become appropriate for the government to regulate it as they would a monopoly.

Then take it up as an anti-trust matter.

In the end, it really is just too simplistic to brush aside this abuse by saying that “they’re a private company.”

Only if you are in favor of government intervention into private industry, and if so then where do you stop?

51 posted on 06/06/2019 11:35:59 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: yesthatjallen

Google, Facebook, Twitter, and Microsoft all need to be trust-busted. They obviously act in concert with each other. Such monopolistic collusion is unAmerican.


52 posted on 06/06/2019 11:36:31 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: NobleFree

So we go with a Libertarian viewpoint and have a world mired in wickedness worse than it is now, because Libertarians don’t give a rip about Jesus as long as they keep making arguments about how the gov’t should not get involved in personal transactions like prostitution, should not get involved in mariage, should not get involved in etc, etc, etc.

Libertarians are one of many reasons, not all reasons so I am not casting all blame on them, that we are living in what is rightly deemed to be Clown World.


53 posted on 06/06/2019 11:38:04 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: NobleFree

Secondly, continued, ultimately, the same morality that says no to gay marriage, no to even personal business transactions like prostitution, no to pedophilia, etc, etc, is the same morailty that say no to abortion.

In the end, Jefferson’s words or not, saying no to abortion comes down to morailty and it is hard to tell Jesus you will support morality on one thing but not on other things.

So what issues of morality will you say yes to Jesus on and no to Jesus on when it comes to gov’t interference?


54 posted on 06/06/2019 11:42:05 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Like I said - big government. When government gets into sin, it at least as often mandates it (e.g. abortion) as prevents it.

So we go with a Libertarian viewpoint and have a world mired in wickedness worse than it is now

Since you're now propping up straw men rather than addressing what I've posted, I'll just wish you a blessed day.

55 posted on 06/06/2019 11:57:19 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Its All Over Except ...
You're back to implying that ALL sin must be illegal - but you've already established you won't squarely address that question. So I guess we're done.
56 posted on 06/06/2019 11:59:04 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: DoodleDawg

“Only if you are in favor of government intervention into private industry, and if so then where do you stop?”

The government is currently involved in many aspects of private industry. Twitter adheres to many existing governmental regulations. It may be appropriate for the government to be involved in this case with Twitter as well.


57 posted on 06/06/2019 4:50:32 PM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: NobleFree
Like I said - big government.

Trying to decide if you're a "liberal-progressive" libertarian, or just a "liberal-progressive" propagandist.

I am amused with liberal-progressives who come and overly simplify this into a "governmental intervention in private industry". That is just bullshit.

The question is, did Crowder violate the terms of usage at the time in question? Second question is, are the terms of usage violations sanctions equally applied to liberals and conservatives? If the answer is no to either of these questions, then Youtube needs to be sanctioned.

I have posted before that these tech companies have become so large and powerful that they can significantly stifle freedom of speech, they can stifle political campaigns and speech. Even worse, they are collaborating together against one side and promoting the other. They need to be broken up into much smaller competing entities.

58 posted on 06/06/2019 6:07:41 PM PDT by Moorings
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YouTube is also a private company and can set their own standards.

Are yes, the stock conservative comment. But... but... Private company!!!!!!!

I’m not down with that line of thinking anymore. This is a culture war. These social media platforms are publicly traded companies and are basically utilities. They have no meaningful competition. We need to make the first amendment apply to all of them.

59 posted on 06/06/2019 6:17:29 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: NobleFree
Absolutely - social media platforms may rightly be required to honestly state their posting and other criteria up front. Nothing more.

Oh, I can think of some more. Like making them subject to the First Amendment. These social media platforms have no meaningful competition. They left the whole private company thing behind along time ago.

60 posted on 06/06/2019 6:20:36 PM PDT by southern rock
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