Have you ever been to Saginaw? Not a very nice place these days. Like Detroit on a miniature scale. Flint at 1/3 the size.
As I wrote in my post, I was born in Saginaw, Michigan. I grew up in a house on Saginaw bay. My dad was a poor, hard working Saginaw fisherman...
Seriously, no. Never even been close to it. In any case, most places it seems have changed for the worse over the years.