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India’s Muslims quiver in the new dawn of an emboldened Narendra Modi
The Guardian ^ | 5.26.2019 | Michael Safi

Posted on 05/26/2019 12:44:28 PM PDT by libh8er

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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Yes...you’re the victims (extreme sarcasm).


As long as they don’t claim to be refugees and try to come here, I am good with it.


21 posted on 05/26/2019 2:00:59 PM PDT by boycott
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They’re welcome to move to Pakistan, or Bangladesh, or one of the many other Muslim countries.


22 posted on 05/26/2019 2:06:36 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Pakistan and Bangladesh are still viable options...


23 posted on 05/26/2019 2:27:19 PM PDT by null and void (The press is always lying. When they aren't actively lying, they are actively concealing the truth.)
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The muslims need to go the way of the Thugees.


24 posted on 05/26/2019 2:28:04 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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Those barbarians shouldn’t be safe anywhere on earth.


25 posted on 05/26/2019 2:28:48 PM PDT by IronJack
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Guess that whole partition thing of India/Pakistan/Bangladesh didn’t work out so well.


26 posted on 05/26/2019 2:35:37 PM PDT by Shark24
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Usually every other religion is quivering about what the Muslims will do next.


27 posted on 05/26/2019 3:42:46 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks libh8er.

28 posted on 05/26/2019 4:01:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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I truly believe that the Guardian plays call to worship in their office PA systems at each appointed time per day.

I know this is hard to believe, but methinks they are even more evil and idiotic than the American Democrat clown show.

Oh well, they’ll have fun dealing with Britainistan 2020.

Hope they keep the burkas ready for the lesser females and have hiding places for all the Oxbridge gays.


29 posted on 05/26/2019 4:41:22 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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Since begin given its independence, India has turned itself inside-out to appease the muzzies, going so far as to slice off the eastern and western edges of their country — which the muzzies had no legitimate rights to — to give to them for a muzzy-ruled homeland in the vain hope that the act would buy what remained of India some respite from muzzy violence.

But despite its generosity and sacrifice, India has had scarcely a moment’s peace from muzzy troubles. They should outlaw Mohammedanism and deport what remains of them to Pakistan or Bangladesh, where they should have been in the first place.


30 posted on 05/26/2019 6:20:51 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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New rush hour muslim tactic:

Don't know where it is. Looks like somewhere in Europe from the license plates.

31 posted on 05/26/2019 9:10:39 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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This is related:

What is the Islamic contribution to India?

By Jonathan Doyle, Self-proclaimed Indologist

There has been no real contribution of the Islamic civilization to the Indian civilization. Yes, you see its influences everywhere, but that does not make it a contribution.

Let me elaborate, but first: I am not a supporter of the “Hindutva brigade” in India and myself distanced equally from all religions.

Let me dissect each so-called “contribution:”

Languages (specifically Hindi):

Hindi is a direct descendent of Vedic Sanskrit. “Urdu,” the hybrid Persianized register, was invented to facilitate communication between the invading Muslims and the native Hindus. The name itself (alluding to military camps) screams its origin out loud.

You can still hear loanwords, but that is just a looming shadow, a ghost of a colonial past under the Muslim dynasties that abducted and altered the Hindi language to establish the hegemony of Islamic and Persianate culture (This is one of the reasons why I don’t even use the slashed moniker of “Hindi/Urdu”).

If that doesn’t clear things, let me set up a comparison: Does the influence of English language in India reflect a “contribution?” Or is it just a spectre of a brutal past under imperialism?

The Hindutva brigade may sometimes go overboard in “purifying” the Hindi language, but there is merit to the claim that the Sanskritized form is the only true “Hindi” (lit. “of Hind” i.e. India).

Sartorial Fashions:

Iranian dressing styles such as the Sherwani and the Shalwar-Kamiz were adopted by the Indians out of a subconscious acceptance of the superiority of Persian culture over their own. That these foreign dresses largely replace Indian ones came out of a desire to imitate the habits of the ruling classes and those associated with them.

Here, you also find oppressive aspects catch on like diseases. India had no equivalent to the purdah culture, but it took one from the Islamic tradition (the burkah, nakab and so on) and merged it with its own. Oppressive dressing norms took hold in India, again, possibly with an element of the natives seeking to copy the habits of the elite.

Music, Art and Architecture:

There is visible Sufi influence on music, but the exact purpose it served brings us back to the motive behind such “contributions.”

Sufism presented a “soft” proselytization by presenting a milder image of Islam to attract potential converts through application of enticing and mesmerizing color of sher-o shairi and musical culture. A lot of South Asian Muslims attribute to Sufis the conversion of their ancestors.

With art and music, it is more accurate to say that the contributions come from Iran or Turkey or the Arab world rather than from Islam. Islam happens to be among the rare religions that actually go beyond discouraging and actually prohibit music (for it is “intoxicating”) and art (for it is viewed that an artist, by creating life, accords himself the status of God). With regard to any contribution to music and art, we should more aptly say that Islam happened to be in the backdrop of this influence.

Architectural “wonders” like the Taj Mahal and Qutub Minar did come up under Muslin dynasties, but let us not forget that these weren’t built on barren land. Indian buildings, often architectural wonders themselves (a lot of them temples) had to be razed to the ground to erect these. They again symbolize the subjugation of the natives.

Literature:

The only thing I can think of with regard to literature is a few court chronicles glorifying the onslaught and massacre of mushrik kafirs and some Sufi literature intended (as written above) to proselytize.

I will never be able to understand Bollywood’s obsession with Urdu poetry in light of the fact that this language was virtually created to symbolize the inferiority of the Hindus.

Judicial Systems:

The only “contribution” is the imposition of Shariah. Read up Sharia Law for Non-Muslims by Bill Warner to know what that meant on the ground.

Other:

Cuisine would be a far more material aspect of culture to consider in a historical enquiry on the interactions of cultures. I remember reading a writer who said that the proliferation of Chinese, Indian, Italian and other cuisines in the United States does not signify cosmopolitanism, and truly, it doesn’t. It’s pure consumerism.

With regard to cuisine, as with medicine, art, music, trade and industry, as with virtually all the other points on the list, there is no real contribution you can count.

Let me now elaborate on why I stress on “real contribution” rather than “influence.” The simple fact remains that whenever you regard any of these influences as a “contribution” to the Indian civilization, you are tacitly assuming that these were a new introduction or a novel idea brought in, or that without contact with the Islamic civilization, India would have had a lack of these.

Assume for a moment that neither the Delhi Sultanate, nor the Mughals, had ruled India. It is not as if the Indian civilization would not have had its beautiful language with splendid literary traditions, its musical and artistic legacy that stands out in the world, or political systems that resemble (to the extent that any systems of those era would) modern institutions. All of these influences were brought with the aim of a cultural conquest rather than exchange, which is another reason why none can be regarded as “contributions,” for the intent behind them matters just as much.

Influence on Hinduism:

This alone stands as an exception, but this is one of those exceptions which actually proves the rule.

“Hinduism” was a scattered group of diverse traditions that never viewed themselves as a singular tradition, but as many related traditions, before the Islamic invasions. Through active discrimination, targeted genocide and the singular label of “kafirs,” the Islamic invaders had actually forged this sense of collectivity among the various Hindu traditions. In fact, the word “Hindu” itself is an invention of the Islamic invaders, who viewed these traditions as a singular pagan tradition. (The British, institutionalizing this through means of the census among other things, further solidified this unification of “Hindu traditions” into one tradition of “Hinduism.”)

Islam, contrary to spreading a message of “universal brotherhood” and “equality” (as popularly said) brought discrimination and religious hostility to the Subcontinent. Rather than influence Hinduism, it sought to erase the heathen tradition. This is very much written into the core Islamic doctrine (which I elaborate on here). The only other contribution I can possibly think of is damage to Hindu heritage (temples, centers of learning etc).

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Islamic-contribution-to-India


32 posted on 05/27/2019 4:40:57 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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