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Maine Senate passes bill giving state's electoral votes to national popular vote winner
CNN ^ | May 16, 2019 | Caroline Kelly

Posted on 05/16/2019 6:15:12 AM PDT by Innovative

Maine's lawmakers passed a bill that would give the state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who won the national popular vote, taking a step toward becoming the 15th state to enact such a law. The Maine Senate voted 19-16 Tuesday to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would give all committed states' electoral votes to the winning popular vote candidate should the group accrue the 270 votes necessary for a majority.

California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington state and the District of Columbia have all committed to the pact. The most recent addition, New Mexico, put the total at 189 electoral votes.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: election; electoralcollege; electoralvotes; popularvote; presidentialelection
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IOW their votes won't count, something the Founding Fathers specifically tried to avoid.
1 posted on 05/16/2019 6:15:12 AM PDT by Innovative
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so let voter fraud in any state decide?


2 posted on 05/16/2019 6:17:58 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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What will be hilariously funny is when Trump wins the popular vote as well.


3 posted on 05/16/2019 6:18:03 AM PDT by Wizdum (The Dems are not afraid a wall won't work, the Dems are TERRIFIED a wall WILL work.)
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To: Innovative

Can they do this? The US constitution can be crumpled up like this?


4 posted on 05/16/2019 6:18:27 AM PDT by albie
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To: Innovative

Mob rule, here we come.


5 posted on 05/16/2019 6:19:16 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: albie

dhimmicrats


6 posted on 05/16/2019 6:20:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Innovative

Typical of the left to just forge forward, regardless of any negative consequences (intended or unintended). No idea how this plays out in real practice. No concern how it plays out in real practice.

Locks in the illegal vote demographic to their cause. Changes the election dynamics. Adds more incentive for fraud at all points in the election process. Invites nightmare scenarios for close votes, and now crossing state lines. Disenfranchises whole states. Destroys federalism (continue the long march with the 17thA), Republic-destroying, ....


7 posted on 05/16/2019 6:20:47 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: Innovative

Exactly, talk about disenfranchisement, this is the king.


8 posted on 05/16/2019 6:21:52 AM PDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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Also note everyone of them is a deep blue state.


9 posted on 05/16/2019 6:22:37 AM PDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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To: albie

I am curious about this, as well.

Can a law made with the specific, expressed purpose of subverting the Constitution possibly hold up in a court challenge?

All they need is one Conservative judge to incorrectly determine that the state can do “anything it wants” with its Electoral Votes.

I suspect this will last exactly as long as it takes for a Republican to win the Popular Vote, though.


10 posted on 05/16/2019 6:23:33 AM PDT by TitansAFC
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If we have a case where Trump wins by roughly 100,000 nationally...you can count up the thirty 2016 states and the ‘freaky’ states that gave their votes to the ‘winner’...Trump probably ends up with an overwhelming number (350-plus). At this point, some of these states with the modified system will be faced by citizens asking why bother to vote?


11 posted on 05/16/2019 6:23:33 AM PDT by pepsionice
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If this is indeed constitutional, the Republican party should mount (has to mount) an aggressive campaign in California for Donald Trump.


12 posted on 05/16/2019 6:23:47 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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One avenue for striking down the compact:

14th Amendment, section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
If my vote is made irrelevant to how my state's electors are assigned, then under the 14th Amendment, ALL the electoral votes are to be tossed.
13 posted on 05/16/2019 6:24:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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So the popular vote is very close and no one is sure who really got the most votes, but it's time for the Electoral College votes to be submitted. What happens then?

ML/NJ

14 posted on 05/16/2019 6:24:31 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Inter-state compacts are unconstitutional WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE HOUSE, THE SENATE, THEN SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT. people need to read the Constitution. Article I, Section 10.


15 posted on 05/16/2019 6:25:13 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: Innovative

Sounds like we’re moving towards another civil war. These states are making many of their voters 3/5 citizens.


16 posted on 05/16/2019 6:25:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Innovative

One could argue that their votes would still count, as those votes would be added to the national total.

What would no longer count - electorally speaking - is Maine as a state. This ‘National Popular Vote’ idea is bad for a dozen reasons. And it’s particularly bad for smaller states. They are surrendering all their influence to the four or five largest states.

Which is exactly what the Founders were trying to prevent.


17 posted on 05/16/2019 6:25:21 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Amazing so many states want to shed what little autonomy they have in the process and submissively nestle at the feet of CA and NY and let voters in those overcrowded states rule over them.


18 posted on 05/16/2019 6:26:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The most urgent gathering threat to America: the Democrat Party)
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To: Innovative

Compacts are unconstitutional.


19 posted on 05/16/2019 6:26:14 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: pepsionice

There will be no need to campaign in Maine. The money can be spent in lost swing states.


20 posted on 05/16/2019 6:29:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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