Posted on 05/15/2019 9:03:49 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
I understand completely. I’m just making an overall observation regarding social media not specific to this case. I think going to the BOE, county rep, or going over the Administrators head for solutions would have been my first way of handling it.
But, in general society loves to use public shaming via social networking as a way to get results.
Isn’t the real issue that grade school children are doing a play about Hitler? The guise of this being historical does not justify such a horrific topic at that age. Intentionally or not, the play clearly has succeeded in turning some kids into little nazis.
How about the history of our country? But probably the curriculum recommends the French revolution over the American. When I was 8, our class was memorizing the Dec. of Independence.
The boys weren’t embracing national socialism, either. They probably had a thing for her, and being 11 themselves, were not at all comfortable about it, so expressed it by deliberately offending her. Like throwing snowballs or spitballs, or turning their eyelids inside out and staring at her and smiling. Only this time they could really get on her nerves by siegfrieding.
But now thanks to her dad, it’s a friggin’ international cause celebre, and the poor girl will want to go home, hide under her bed and wait for death, at least for an hour.
We used to go to the auditorium and watch a film version of Johnny Tremain.
I find that a bit of a stretch. Maybe smiling is disruptive too. Or perhaps giving someone the finger is disruptive. Maybe holding a photograph of an aborted fetus is disruptive too. Just because you are offended does not mean the action, whatever it is, is not a protected activity.
Way I see it is, kids get into a squabble. Boys siegfried girl. Girl screams “STOP IT!” Send everyone to the Principle’s office and let G-d sort them out. Nazi salutes are not protected activities, any more than wearing KKK sheets, or giving people the finger, cursing, or chasing another kid around the hall with a booger on your finger, threatening to wipe it on him. The Constitution has very limited free-speech protection inside a schoolhouse, and keeping order amongst the little savages is a compelling enough state interest to override what little there is of free speech.
A production of Schindlers list ?
What exactly was this production with nazis in it that (high?)schoolers were doing ?
Sounds also like a ‘triggering’ episode where typical children (instantly) pick up when another child ‘reacts’ and then they play with their new fun button they can press ... And the child gains parental esteem by reporting it like ‘a good little informer’ (the parents SJW triggering ... father an ‘academic’ - who woulda thought ???)
You could be right, but I’m thinking it’s a lesson gone wrong and the teacher doesn’t want to admit it. Surely the “take home” message wasn’t how to give a Nazi salute, but that’s what the kids got out of it. Girl says the emperor, rather the teacher, has no clothes. The teacher tells her to shut up.
My thoughts, though not exactly. Anyway, the girl showed she could make a stand and be unpopular, and that’s praiseworthy. As for the adults in this story, they should sit in the corner with a dunce cap on.
The teacher can take her educator’s certificate and wipe her arse with it. What part of being a kid doesn’t she get? Wasn’t she ever one? Is she a Replicant?
“A production of Schindlers list ?”
The musical?
Public schools: an arm of the government entrusted with the task of beating the children into submissive little sheep, so they grow up to be submissive big sheep and obey their government.
Hey gov! FU!
Well, there’s at least one little girl who has shown signs of resistance. It does my heart good.
When I was eleven, I was a pint-sized Bolshevik, very upset after reading Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. I refused to sing the national anthem or pledge allegiance to the flag. Boy was I dumb. But I learned a valuable lesson from that. You don’t have to conform. You can get along just fine if all your piers ostracize you. When I was finally convinced that I was wrong, I gave up my recalcitrance, but not because I feared disapprobation from my erstwhile friends. Later, when I was in a hippy freedom artsy fartsy school and became an Orthodox practitioner of Judaism, my earlier lessons in non-compliance served me well in a worthier cause. I wish this girl well in her resistance.
I’ve seen a few of those photos, still not sure what the symbol means, nor do I care, as it’s 1A, but I always thought AOK was with the index finger upwards, no?
The kids were being silly and perhaps teachers and school administration should have announced they were not to do it or they would be penalized.The 11 child should not have been given a platform to do what school administration should have been doing. They know kids at that age tease peers.Sounds like her old man was driving this thing with appeals to newspaper and on facebook.
It was kids being silly, and adults totally mis-handling the situation. As you say. But the girl is still a brave girl. She didn’t buckle or shut up.
Yes, it is upwards. And the leftist kooks (dangerous kooks nonetheless) claim it means “white power”.
I am fed up with these sick, hateful people redefining everything to suit their perverted agenda and endless accusations.
People need to simply look them in the eye and say “kiss off”. Unfortunately if you put a camera in front of an elected Republican and accuse him of a made up social crime like this, he wets his pants and apologizes for doing nothing wrong.
Americans used to salute the flag that way.
Maybe it’s time to bring it back and stop letting the Nazis own the thing. Might even want to normalize the swastika, too, while we’re at it because it was perfectly fine until the Nazis abused it.
I mean, heck, are we supposed to ban everything the Nazis said or did? Like expressways, Volkswagens, Mercedes, BMWs, Bayer aspirin, etc?
At the same time I suspect the girl was being disruptive in the way that so many snowflakes are disruptive these days.
“Americans used to salute the flag that way.”
The straight-armed Siegfried salute was invented during the early days of the Third Reich, per Conrad Heiden’s Der Fuhrer, because the rank-and-file spontaneously started doing it as a quicker way to execute the standard salute, no fuss and fidget around the forehead.
Who was banning the Nazi salute. Classmates started doing it. The girl didn’t like it, and told the other kids to stop, and they doubled down. She got upset and yelled at them. She got sent to the Principal, and they did not, even though it was obvious that they were doing it specifically to upset her. Nazi salute normalized. You got a problem with it? Talk to the Principal.
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