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Suddenly conservative lawyers are condemning Trump for abuses of power
LA Times ^ | May 12, 2019 | Doyle McManus

Posted on 05/12/2019 10:19:35 AM PDT by Innovative

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To: sparklite2
Conservatism, in my mind, means smaller government, rule of law, and individual liberty.

...and that's what I call being on the right track (but pinpoint "rule of law" as the Constitution (a lot of federal law is unconstitutional and, thus, invalid and should be made null and void)) and being a Patriot.

The problem with "conservatism" is you ask ten people and you get ten different answers and, yes, a lot of conservatives are "reactionary" meaning all they know is what they are against.

And don't shy away from small "l" libertarian. Just means you're for freedom - what our country was founded on. :)

41 posted on 05/12/2019 12:09:18 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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"..Washington seems to be barreling toward a constitutional crisis...."

The LA Lies quoting this week's rampant and overused phrase of the DemonRat media lap dogs. I stopped reading at that point. Trash newspaper with the usual libtard message.

42 posted on 05/12/2019 12:12:38 PM PDT by Sa-teef
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To: Innovative
What conservative lawyers

The ones that become conservative judges. (snicker)

No members of the coup have been hauled away in handcuffs. The coup has won. All they have to do is mop up.

43 posted on 05/12/2019 12:14:00 PM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: JonPreston

You got it.

Let’s get back to calling ourselves Patriots - those of us who love America and what it stands for and was founded for: freedom and independence FROM government, not dependence ON government.

Let’s understand that the 80%+ unconstitutional portion of the federal government is our greatest threat and MUST be dismantled in order to recover our Free Constitutional Republic.


44 posted on 05/12/2019 12:14:02 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim 0216
a lot of federal law is unconstitutional

From Sen. Mike Lee via Twitchy
Introducing the 2013 Federal Register:
80,000 pages worth of rules & regs.
The small stack of papers on top of the display
are the laws passed by elected members of
Congress and signed into law by the president.



45 posted on 05/12/2019 12:25:33 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Jim 0216

“I’m not interested in ‘conservative lawyers’ or ‘conservative’ anything.”

Check out the home page of the forum on which you are posting:

Welcome to Free Republic!
Conservatives for God, Family, Country!
Est. 1996

Just because liberals claim someone is “conservative” does not mean they are.

Seem to be a lot of folks on this site who have lost sight of the underlying principles that make America great.


46 posted on 05/12/2019 12:38:47 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: unlearner
Seem to be a lot of folks on this site who have lost sight of the underlying principles that make America great.

I think that is my main complaint.

MANY here are articulate about what they are against but have trouble articulating what they are for and understanding what our goal on the Right should be.

The Left is very clear about their goal: Global Totalitarian Government.

The Right SHOULD understand that our goal is the restoration of America's Free Constitutional Republic.

But many so-called "conservatives" are lost on that. They only seem to recognize something they don't like and then rail against it. We'll never get there that way. We'll never get to our destination if we don't know what the destination is.

That is one strength the Left has over the Right. The Left is marching arm and arm towards world totalitarianism. The Right is too busy reacting to the Left, rather clueless about why they do what they do, rather than proactively doing what we should be doing: dismantling the 80%+ unconstitutional portion of the federal government.

47 posted on 05/12/2019 12:50:35 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: butlerweave
Defending yourself is abuse of power ?

When defending yourself from the Democrat party, yes.
48 posted on 05/12/2019 12:56:09 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Jim 0216

I agree and assumed you meant as much. I’ve seen many of your posts here and have never seen anything that I recall being at all unconservative.

One problem we have is that politicians of both parties seem to wrap themselves in labels whenever it seems politically expedient. We saw this with the Tea party movement. Lots of RINOs wanted in on the action. Kingmakers wanted to somehow get control of the grassroots effort.

Another problem we have is too many on our side want simplistic solutions, soundbite answers, and are not willing to do the heavy lifting when it comes to getting educated. One of the main reasons I come to FR is to get educated. There are many things I don’t know and am only scratching the surface to learn. But I continue to try and gain more understanding of the relevant subjects.

We see masses on the left who seem to be in a stupor and can only think “orange man bad.” On the other hand, we cannot afford to react in kind with unthinking beliefs. We need to be able to make the case why conservatism (not just the label) works IF we ever try it.


49 posted on 05/12/2019 1:06:14 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: Innovative
"Suddenly"?????????

Coming from Never Trump conservative RINO John You, How the hell is this "suddenly?" From Trump's 1st month in office:

FEBRUARY 7, 2017: "George W. Bush's "torture lawyer" turns on Trump — but it may be too late" - salon.com

And nothing but the same reheated BS continuously since.

50 posted on 05/12/2019 1:21:00 PM PDT by drpix
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To: unlearner
We need to be able to make the case why conservatism (not just the label) works IF we ever try it.

I would suggest a sharper goal: make the case why and what it would take to restore our Free Constitutional Republic.

51 posted on 05/12/2019 1:24:39 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Innovative

Hang tough, Donald.


52 posted on 05/12/2019 3:54:08 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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