On the other hand . . . 
Posted on 05/07/2019 6:50:05 PM PDT by dynachrome
The latest reason not to tolerate the elimination of cash - the financial institutions refusing to do business with conservatives.
Paypal and Mastercard are canceling accounts of people like Pamela Gellar, Milo Yianapolis and the Proud Boys. Not just organizational accounts but personal bank accounts.
Mastercard has a shareholder referendum on setting up a warm and fuzzy sounding committee that says if you’re conservative, you’re guilty of hate speech, and good PR and social responsibility says we have to stop doing business with you.
Liberal bullies are attacking conservative financially on all fronts. Getting them kicked off Patreon, then the systematic effort to shut down Subscribestar AND Freestartr. Liberals lied about “don’t like it, go set up your own” when payment processors and Big Tech colluded to kill the alternatives.
Good!, I pay Cash for everything and make NO in person electronic transactions EVER!!
Not Tracked,Marketed, Bought and sold like a $2 whore.
They are usually small businesses that could not afford to have a credit card machine.
So they were cash or, if they knew you check, only.
With Square most of those places now take cards for purchases over a certain amount.
But my seed guy still only takes cash.
How would going cashless keep people from stealing stuff? Or are you suggesting that one would need to swipe/insert a card just to get in? It would seem that thieves without credit cards would likely still have EBT cards or could piggyback when someone else swipes in.
It isn’t a lie. You are just having trouble understanding the term “debt.” A sale of goods and services is not a “debt,” a “public charge,” a “tax,” or a “due.” Every court that has considered the matter has held that the legal tender statute only applies to pre-existing debts, and that there is no federal statute mandating that a private business, person, or organization must accept legal tender as payment for goods or services.
If you owe me money and you tender cash to pay that debt, then the debt is discharged under federal law because the cash is legal tender. But if you want to buy a cup of coffee from me and offer me cash, I do not have to agree to sell it to you if I want you to pay with a credit card instead.
When does a transaction become a debt? When I have the goods in hand?
Well aware of that. Which is why a wrote the post.
My Dad’s military ID number (serial number) when he was in the Army (WWII) was not his SSN.
For those in the service today it is.
So, one could say that we are all property of the US Government just like those in the service.
Like you said “that should never have been allowed to happen.”
Hey, there is a business that's probably still all-cash!
So what if some crazy retailer wants to change payment requirements daily and run off all of his customers? Isn’t that the retailer’s decision? No one is making you shop there.
Also, what if Ocasio Cortez gains power and institutes her print-and-spend economics and causes hyperinflation. If a business wants to accept only gold coins instead of wheelbarrows of cash, shouldn’t the business be able to do that as well?
Watch them start using their cash as toilet paper
My guess is the cash control is too difficult for many businesses these days. They simply can’t trust the people they hire, and I can understand that.
How do you figure no in person electronic transactions ever protects you from being surveilled and your data from being traded?
Trust me you nor I are significant enough for tracking and if they choose to they already know who you are, what you do, where to find you. Nothing you do or don’t do will change that. My uncle is very paranoid like you. I try to educate him on the fact the government already knows you.
I wrote the wrong thing.
I have never come across a credit only store that does not take cash.
That’s what I meant to write.
Cash only is still common. I didn’t mean to say I’d never seen that.
If you have the goods in hand and the seller agrees to accept money in the future rather than immediate payment, then that is a debt. If I agree that you may gladly pay me Tuesday for a hamburger today and I give you the hamburger, and our agreement does not specify the form in which payment may be made, then you owe me a debt that you may discharge on Tuesday with legal tender whether I decide to accept it then or not. If I say that I will only give you a hamburger if you agree to pay me with a credit card, then that is not a debt, and I am well within my rights (as far as federal law is concerned) to refuse to give you the hamburger if you won’t swipe your credit card.
Also, if I tell you that I will give you a hamburger today only if you agree to pay me in Bitcoin on Tuesday, then guess what? I don’t have to accept your legal tender then, because you agreed to pay me Bitcoin. The legal tender statute only affects the discharge of antecedent debts. IT does not prevent us from agreeing to a different form of payment. Otherwise, trading and bartering would be illegal, when it plainly is not.
How are the homeless, illegals, and others who can’t find a $15/hr job supposed to get cash if they can’t grab it out of an opened cash register or grab it from a customer’s hand?
Interesting. Thank you for spending the effort.
On the other hand . . .
The PennDOT offices don’t accept cash. I think their employees would rob them blind if they did.
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