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U.S. Stocks Fall as Fresh Trade Tensions Upend Market Calm
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 6, 2019 | Donato Paolo Mancini, Joanne Chiu and Jessica Menton

Posted on 05/06/2019 8:55:34 AM PDT by billorites

U.S. stocks declined Monday amid heightened anxiety over the U.S.-China trade spat, raising investors’ concerns that the conflict could dent economic growth.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 186 points, or 0.7%, to 26322, easing off of session lows after falling more than 450 points in early trading. The S&P 500 shed 0.7% and the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite dropped 0.9%. Ten of the 11 S&P 500 sectors dropped, led by declines in industrials, materials technology-—three areas with heavy exposure to China. Nearly all of the 30 stocks that make up the Dow industrials also fell.

Stock markets in Asia and Europe slid, oil prices declined and the Chinese yuan weakened after President Trump threatened to ramp up U.S. tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese imports to 25%, up from the current 10%. That put an accord between the two countries in doubt ahead of a new round of talks set to begin this week in

Is the market’s sudden downdraft likely to be temporary, the result of a hiccup in trade talks, or the start of something more lasting, reflecting slowing global growth? Join the conversation below.

China’s delegation was preparing to go to the U.S. for the talks, the foreign ministry spokesman said Monday, adding that the Chinese government hoped both sides could work together to reach an agreement after threats repeatedly rose in the past.

Jitters over the trade battle revived worries that tensions would take a toll on corporate profits, undermining strong U.S. growth, some analysts and traders said.

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Elsewhere, Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index dropped more than 3% while Europe’s pan-continental Stoxx Europe 600 lost 1.2%.

The Shanghai Composite Index fell 5.6%, while its counterpart in Shenzhen tumbled 7.4%, both registering their biggest single-day declines since 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinatrade; stockmarket; trumpchina; trumptariffs
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At 11:52 EST the Dow was down 0.80%

China fell 6-7% !?!

Winning!

1 posted on 05/06/2019 8:55:34 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

MEGA MAGA WINNING!!!!!


2 posted on 05/06/2019 8:56:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: billorites

186 points is nothing.


3 posted on 05/06/2019 8:56:42 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: billorites

Temporary and minor US stock buying opportunity.


4 posted on 05/06/2019 8:57:03 AM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: billorites

So the suckers panicked and sold their stocks to the sharks who will sell them back to them tomorrow at a profit. Wall Street proves this country is so great even morons can make money.


5 posted on 05/06/2019 8:58:57 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: billorites

Great news....

Howver, Mitt Romney is demanding that we remove all tariffs.


6 posted on 05/06/2019 9:00:22 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

And I demand Mitt Romney keeps his dogs in the damn car.


7 posted on 05/06/2019 9:01:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Mitt Romney is demanding that we remove all tariffs.

Then he should run for president so he can manage foreign policy.
8 posted on 05/06/2019 9:03:15 AM PDT by JoSixChip (Trump stands alone.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Well ...

“The DOW fell today as there were more sellers than buyers”

... isn’t as exciting as ...

“Trump’s fault!”


9 posted on 05/06/2019 9:04:55 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: billorites

I think the market is getting this right. Trump is pretty sure to be bluffing, and will eat his words as usual to avoid tanking the market.


10 posted on 05/06/2019 9:11:11 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: billorites

This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you......Oh,no,it’s not. The Chinese Hang Seng index is now down today more than triple the US Dow index on a percentage basis. Trump’s tariff war with China reminds me of Reagan ratcheting up military spending in a military buildup with the USSR expressly to propel the demise of their ailing economy into bankruptcy. It hurts until the other guy dies. Then we hold a party at the funeral, shed a few false tears and run out to collect the dividends. Unfortunately we are going to have to pay $1.25 rather than $1.00 for that can opener we could have bought from China while we are waiting for the funeral hearse to drag their economic carcass way. A small price to pay to get rid of a parasitic competitor/enemy.


11 posted on 05/06/2019 9:15:04 AM PDT by chuckee
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oil, gas and pipelines up slightly


12 posted on 05/06/2019 9:18:50 AM PDT by spokeshave (If anything, Trump is guilty of attempting to obstruct injustice.)
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To: billorites

Yahoo finance news has that clown Newman reporting. He loves it when America is on the losing side.


13 posted on 05/06/2019 9:19:21 AM PDT by MGunny
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To: billorites

Panda Played the Dragon Game – Now Trump Targets the Bamboo Forest…

Posted on  by 

Well, it looks like all suspicions are now confirmed. The dragon dance of 2017 and 2018 has extended into 2019. DPRK Chairman Kim fires rockets, Trump smacks Chinese Chairman Xi. Yes, we can officially put the remaining bits of skepticism to rest…

The meeting last week between Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and their Chinese counterparts including Vice-Chairman Liu, was especially important.  Mnuchin and Lighthizer said they would debrief President Trump on the likelihood of whether a successful trade deal with a communist regime was structurally possible; or whether Beijing was playing a game of delay.

The ongoing dance with the dragon has been a series of cunning manuevers between the Panda mask and the Dragon face. At the conclusion of the Beijing visit by Mnuchin and Lighthizer, Chinese Chairman Xi sent a proactive response using his familiar proxy North Korean Chairman Kim. The DPRK test-fired three missiles.

Today President Trump responds:

 

The increase of the Round-1 tariffs from 10% to 25%, previously delayed after discussions between Xi and Trump in Argentina, will now be triggered. Additionally, the Round-2 tariffs (25% on $325 billion of different goods), originally scheduled for March 1, also postponed after the Argentina dinner, will now be implemented.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Donald Trump dramatically increased pressure on China to reach a trade deal by announcing on Sunday he would hike U.S. tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods this week and target hundreds of billions more soon.

The move marked a major escalation in trade tensions between the world’s two largest economies and a shift in tone from Trump, who cited progress in talks as recently as Friday.

But a less than rosy update from United States Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, including details that China was pulling back from some commitments it made previously, prompted Trump’s decision and jab on Twitter at Beijing.

“The Trade Deal with China continues, but too slowly, as they attempt to renegotiate. No!” Trump said in a tweet.

Financial markets reacted negatively. S&P 500 e-minis fell 1.6%, while Dow futures were down 420 points or 1.6%.  The move could be a negotiating tactic ahead of a new round of talks this week.  [It’s not, /SD]

Chinese officials are scheduled to meet their U.S. counterparts in Washington on Wednesday after meeting in Beijing last week for a round that Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin described as “productive.”

New fines will now hang over those talks, assuming they take place as planned. Trump said tariffs on $200 billion of goods would increase to 25 percent on Friday from 10 percent, reversing a decision he made in February to keep them at the 10 percent rate after progress between the two sides.

The president also said he would target a further $325 billion of Chinese goods with 25 percent tariffs “shortly,” essentially targeting all products imported to the United States from China. (read more)

 

Inflation in the U.S. remains low at 1.4%…. now is the perfect time to hit Beijing with expanded tariffs. I’m surprised China didn’t evaluate that aspect, perhaps they did; but they are also running out of time due to negotiation pressure from Trump.

Beijing referring back to the DPRK blackmail reflects a certain desperation on the part of the communist regime.  A dual display of bad form, and a visible *tell* for President Trump.

Knowing China has just indicated a weak hand, now Trump calls their bluff.

Chairman Xi played a cunning Panda-face game between the Argentina dinner (G20), the manipulation of the Hanoi summit with Chairman Kim, and the extended trade negotiation talks.  Xi stopped the immediate tariff threat, and simultaneously retained the DPRK leverage over Trump.

However, given the scale of China’s dependence on access to the U.S. market, it was only a matter of Trump allowing the appearance of diplomatic time to pass before he could counter with a more forceful response of his own.  I have no doubt Lighthizer dropped a strategic ultimatum on Beijing last week, triggering them to drop the panda mask.

Team U.S.A. came out of these negotiations exactly where President Trump always seemed to be heading; he wants full frontal tariffs on Chinese imports because he knows China will never genuinely negotiate terms until they are defeated.

Chairman Xi and Vice-Chairman Liu now have only a few days to rethink their approach. Now they have exhausted the delay strategy; and simultaneously any immediate increase in DPRK hostilities will be transparent and of no further trade benefit.

Fully acquiesce to Trump trade terms, or purchase some extended trade benefit with full retreat from North Korea manipulation.

…..Keep watching; this is the part where Wilbur Ross reemerges to close the deal.

 

 

 

 

 

14 posted on 05/06/2019 9:20:21 AM PDT by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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To: billorites

At 11:52 EST the Dow was down 0.80%

China fell 6-7% !?!

Winning!

...

Why isn’t that the headline?


15 posted on 05/06/2019 9:22:10 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Brilliant

At the current valuation, I don’t even blink until it’s down 500 or more.


16 posted on 05/06/2019 9:31:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Moonman62

Because most reporters don’t understand math... and it’s implications.


17 posted on 05/06/2019 9:31:57 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Elites reflexively exempt themselves from the ravages of their own policies." - nathanbedford)
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To: nikos1121
Mitt Romney is demanding that we remove all tariffs

For a guy who doesn't pick losers, he sure is one in Congress.

18 posted on 05/06/2019 9:33:36 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: cuban leaf

Even 500 is only about 2 percent.


19 posted on 05/06/2019 9:35:42 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I remember when 300 point move was massive. But yeah, not any more. I’m getting where I don’t even wanna know “points”. Just give me “percentage”.


20 posted on 05/06/2019 9:37:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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