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To: jazusamo
Earlier this month we did an 800 mile road trip in our diesel.Most of our trip was done at 65MPH in perfect Interstate driving conditions but about 100 miles featured horrible conditions.We started with a full tank,didn't buy a drop of fuel while away and when we got home the "distance to empty" reading was "10 miles".

And it took us about 4 minutes to fill the tank when we were done.

When electric vehicles can do that I'll consider one.But until then...NO THANKS!

4 posted on 04/27/2019 9:34:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Barr:The Bill Belichick of Attorneys General)
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To: Gay State Conservative

They can - a hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle can do exactly that. (Though the one I link below as an example, doesn’t have quite that range.)

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/31/2019-hyundai-nexo-hydrogen-fuel-cell/

The Japanese and South Korean governments are abandoning battery electric vehicles and setting up hydrogen fueling networks for FCEVs. However, the US government and media keep pushing people towards battery electric vehicles.


7 posted on 04/27/2019 9:40:59 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The US bans imports of ultra efficient diesel cars from Europe and Europe is beginning to ban them there, too, because they produce a tad more whatever the "experts" define as pollution than do gas cars. Of course diesels produce less pollution per mile driven, which is the significant characteristic, but Liberals don't think past the thinnest of surface.
27 posted on 04/27/2019 10:51:36 AM PDT by arthurus (cvb)
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To: Gay State Conservative

While I think it’s nice that you can do that, there aren’t many cars today that can. It’s a high level of demand of a new vehicle to reach the optimal level of any car, just to be considered.

Cars that are now in the 250 to 300 mile range are coming close to acceptable levels. Those cars are also on the verge of being able to be charged to 80% in 15 to 30 minutes depending on the level of charger you use.

It’s not such a bad deal to stop every 200 miles for a few minutes. You can go to the restroom, get some snacks or a meal. You can benefit from the experience, to be a bit more alert on the road too.

I don’t think everyone should be driving electric, but the idea that coal fired plants charge them, isn’t a big deal to me. That electricity is used for many other things too.

New technology fascinates me. Electric vehicles do. Today the government is subsidizing electric vehicles. Most folks see that as abhorrently wrong. Constitutionally, I think they are right. That isn’t the full story.

We are on the cusp of having smart vehicles attached to a smart network where people will be able to charge cars during the night cheaply, and the power companies will be in a position to buy part of it back during the day at higher rates.

If you’re using your 300 mile ranged vehicle to go to and from work 20 miles each way, you’ll have 260 miles worth of energy to sell. You will be able to tell the power company how much power they are authorized to use from your vehicle. They will part or all of that allotment while you work.

Lets say you tell them 200 miles worth, just to play it safe. Doing this five days per week over a year could give you a pretty decent dividend per year. If you have two or more vehicle per household, so much the better.

When you’ve got tens of thousands of these cars on the grid, you’ve just created a massive energy resource. It’s an energy resource that will feed power into the grid on demand as needed.

One of the problems with energy is that you have to generate the full capacity needed during peak periods of the day. This system would relieve that pressure. It would allow a more flat level source of power for the grid.

Look folks, this is a new technology. Right now the government is making an investment. In time it may actually save us all money, as new conventional power plants don’t need to be built.

Maybe people in big cities or California do benefit more than they should right now.

There are going to be things that continue to bother me about all this, but there are also going to be things about it that cause me to think aspects of it are pretty cool too.

This isn’t just about electric vehicles. It’s about that and a new way of storing power for peak periods in a way many of us will benefit from in a number of ways.

I do believe that cleaner air will result. I also realize that used car batteries are now being used to build battery packs for homes, so they essentially become more than self-sufficient.

I have a family member that sells power back to the power company each month. They have a negative monthly power bill, and it has also affected their natural gas bill.

There is a massive industry coming on line right now. In the end I think it’s going to affect our lives numerous ways for the positive.

My family member’s home is actually an example of the concept of selling power back into the grid. Vehicles will do that in the not too distant future.

This really is cool.


34 posted on 04/27/2019 12:45:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Gay State Conservative

My two, 15 yr old [700 mi range at 80 mph], m/t Turbo Diesels are fading without adequate replacement candidates much less a 2x improvement in mileage that the the Islamic Hussein said I should seek out.


51 posted on 04/27/2019 5:56:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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