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The Never-Ending Threat of Civil War
American Thinker ^ | April 6, 2019 | E.M. Cadwaladr

Posted on 04/06/2019 3:18:34 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

We and the Left are now two nations within one country. This is undeniable. We are now so different that we cannot even agree on what a country is, or on the merits of a country having a border. The number of people who still say, "I just don't care about politics" dwindles. It is still possible to hate both sides — but it is getting hard to be indifferent and still be breathing. How many people can just take or leave infanticide? How many people are entirely flexible about the idea of the government having authority over anything and everything, to experimenting with our fundamental demographics, or to giving up fossil fuels cold turkey? The abyss looms large beneath us.

We conservatives have let this ideological cancer metastasize for far too long for its excision to be simple or painless. For too long, we have been patient with outrages we should have fought to reverse. We have let our opponents secede incrementally from us for decades. We have been tolerant and patient...we have given up our civil society, our political representation, and our freedoms one by one. Our maladies won't be fixed by delicate adjustments now...Either the cancer wins, and kills us all, or we defeat it — and we accept the scars. Let us not pretend they would not be hideous scars. And let us not pretend it would not be a deeply barbarous and bitter surgery.

The titanic nations of the Left and right are rising en masse — flexing their muscles and snorting menacingly at one another. We cannot get out of their way. There is no safe part of the country, nor any genuinely safe haven left in any other country. This is a global conflict. We have run out of frontiers.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilunrest; civilwar; cwii; cwiiping; insurrection; war
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To: central_va

why?


261 posted on 04/07/2019 12:48:52 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Vermont Lt

As soon as the EBT cards run out, there will be a slaughter in the city. T


A few thoughts:

1) EBT cards and other welfare are as common in rural areas as the city.

2) EBT cards and welfare are a payment NOT to riot. Everything will be done to keep that system in place


262 posted on 04/07/2019 12:50:12 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I think that about my parent’s generation every day.

Every day, I go visit them in nursing homes. 90% of them wish they were dead. Most of them would have never had that heart operation ten years ago. Most of them are incontinent, most of them have dementia.

I have walked out there praying they would all be “taken” tonight. But each in their own time.

My guess is your parents have already passed or you are young enough that you haven’t had to live this yet.

It happens with every generation. Trust me. Either you haven’t faced it, or you are not being openly honest about it.


263 posted on 04/07/2019 12:54:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service? Why?)
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To: PeterPrinciple

EBT Represents the government in every day life.

There will be riots of course. But what else? How much are the large grocery chains making from EBT? 20%-40%?

Once EBT stops, the food supply chain breaks in a matter of a week or two. Then we are screwed.

This is not going to be left or right, blue or red, north or south.

Its all about the flow of money. Interrupt the flow of commerce and the country will fall apart. Left and right dont matter when your belly is empty.


264 posted on 04/07/2019 12:59:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service? Why?)
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To: Vermont Lt

Ok, when the states that have approved the National Vote Plan reach 270 EV and the first election after that results in TWO Presidents being elected, what happens? Please gaze into your crystal ball for us.


265 posted on 04/07/2019 1:23:50 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: GreyHoundSailor

Sounds like Ruby Ridge.
If they were smart they’d just use the phone or ask you to stop by the station or talk to you when they see you shopping at the grocery.
Sounds like the violated your 4th amendment rights.
They should be prosecuted for trespassing without a warrent.


266 posted on 04/07/2019 1:28:59 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It’s not going to be in place until 2024. You won’t care by then. We will both be in re-education camps.


267 posted on 04/07/2019 1:46:56 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service? Why?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

BKMRK


268 posted on 04/07/2019 2:06:09 PM PDT by jimjohn (2nd American Civil War: ongoing since January 20, 2017.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Re: Is that when the Poles came down and whooped up on the Ottomans?

I think you are referring to Jan Sobieski, King of Poland, who beat up the Muzzies in 1683.

The Ottoman Turks were attacking Polish border towns and southern Russia at least since the 1500s.

Believe it or not, Poland was almost as large (geographically) as Russia in the 1500s.

When Ivan the Terrible became Czar around 1550, no one actually knew that northern Siberia extended all the way to the Pacific Ocean.

Northern Siberia was basically the largest and most sparsely populated forest in the world.

269 posted on 04/07/2019 4:16:09 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: central_va
Don’t be ridiculous. There will be entire sections of the country that will faction off and be entirely stable.

File under Famous Last Words.

270 posted on 04/07/2019 4:50:05 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

Oh yeah the Wyoming will be a hot bed of guerilla fighting in the next civil war. /sarcasm


271 posted on 04/07/2019 4:52:30 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Civil War 2 in America is impossible because it would consist of white men slaughtering white women. Left vs Right. That’s the reality of it.


272 posted on 04/07/2019 4:55:55 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: The Toll

White men won’t kill perfectly good < insert favorite word for female genitalia here >


273 posted on 04/07/2019 4:58:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SanchoP
If 3% didn't pay their taxes the system would collapse.

Why?

We live on borrowed or printed money that is far greater than 3% of federal taxes!

The U.S. had a budget deficit of 779 billion in 2018.

There were 1,822 billion collected in income taxes, and 1,295 collected in Social Security, Medicare, unemployment, and retirement funds. Total about 3,117 billion in direct individual taxes.

So the deficit is already as much as 25% of the individual taxes collected.

How will another 3% make a significant difference?

274 posted on 04/07/2019 4:58:47 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: central_va
The big question are nukes and the Navy. As far as nukes go I do not see them as a viable weapon in a civil war. The Navy is the crucial question. Will the center Navy( will they have a Navy?) be able to blockade the coasts and starve the blue coast cities?

The big question is which side controls the U.S. armed forces!

The Navy is a big part of that. We won't have a war if the government stays in conservative hands.

Nukes are important, because they prevent invasion by foreigners. Libya would not have fallen if it had nukes.

Look at the difference between North Korea and Libya.

275 posted on 04/07/2019 5:04:18 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: central_va

Honestly though. When you look at the actual numbers, the American Left is made up of 80% white females.

If we won’t kill them. We will die.


276 posted on 04/07/2019 5:04:28 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: RoosterRedux; bert
CWII will never materialize as a countrywide phenomena for the simple reason people are more comfortable not actively participating, for a myriad of reasons, some very valid ones, and some not so much.

President Trump, or any sitting president, will not go there, and instead try to achieve a change with political maneuvering, which is why we are currently where we are.

Anything a conservative president passes, IF it gets that far, will be shot down in the courts or simply laughed at and ignored by liberal states and their inhabitants.

It is going to take years to undo what has been accomplished by progressives- during which time they will resist and fight tooth and nail- something for which there is no longer sufficient time to affect.

I am afraid that without serious consequences for their actions, they will just keep on keeping on.

277 posted on 04/07/2019 5:13:26 PM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: central_va
...those STATES are 70-80% right wing and the govs will get those cities under control ASAP...

Well, for rather lengthy durations of "ASAP" no doubt you are correct. Give it a couple of years and some forced resettlement of that 20-30% population of left-wingers and things ought to quiet down.

But those Right-Wing State Governments that you mention will have their own factional disputes that will be just as vicious as the confrontations they have with the Leftists. A lot of people will get hurt by the same leaders who they trusted and supported. Sorting that out will be ugly.

Lots of collateral damage in that process. Best to plan for events that are painful and take a lot longer to get stabilized than anybody wants them to take.

278 posted on 04/07/2019 6:55:37 PM PDT by flamberge
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To: central_va
Oh yeah the Wyoming will be a hot bed of guerilla fighting in the next civil war. /sarcasm

At 98,000 square miles and half a million residents, Wyoming is roughly .0015 of the U.S. population.

Per Wiki:

"Wyoming is a state in the mountain region of the western United States. The state is the 10th largest by area, the least populous, and the second most sparsely populated state in the country. The state population was estimated at 577,737 in 2018, which is less than 31 of the most populous U.S. cities..."

Not exactly representative of the sort of conditions the average American will endure and experience during a civil war.

279 posted on 04/07/2019 10:53:32 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: marktwain
The Army , at less than 700,000 active duty, will be irrelevant in a general Civil War scenario involving over 300 million people. What happens to the current minuscule standing US Army will not even be a foot note in history.

New armies will form numbering in the millions.

280 posted on 04/08/2019 4:54:42 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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