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Trump Retreats on Health Care, Saying Republican Plan Will Appear After the 2020 Election
NY Times ^ | 04/02/2019 | Eileen Sullivan and Maggie Haberman

Posted on 04/02/2019 6:55:14 AM PDT by GIdget2004

President Trump announced that Republicans would not present a health care overhaul proposal until after the 2020 election, punting on coming up with a replacement for the Affordable Care Act, which the administration is currently fighting in court to invalidate. The issue now will dominate presidential campaigns in the months leading up to the 2020 election.

Mr. Trump announced his new timetable in a thread of Twitter posts late Monday, putting off one of his biggest campaign promises until, the president hopes, he is re-elected.

“Everybody agrees that ObamaCare doesn’t work,” began Mr. Trump, who went on to add that Republicans were “developing a really great HealthCare Plan with far lower premiums (cost) & deductibles than ObamaCare.”

He said a vote on it would be taken after the election, “when Republicans hold the Senate & win back the House.”

It was not immediately clear on Tuesday what the Trump administration would do if courts ruled in favor of abolishing the health care system established by President Barack Obama. Last week, the Trump administration broadened its war on the health care law by arguing that the entire Affordable Care Act should be invalidated. If the law were abandoned, at least 20 million people could lose their health insurance. A court battle could stretch past the 2020 election.

Mr. Trump described a future Republican proposal as “far less expensive & much more usable than ObamaCare.”

Last week, Mr. Trump declared that Republicans would become the party of health care, a promise Democrats immediately embraced. On Monday, Mr. Trump maintained that position, but said Republicans would pass a new law once they won back both chambers of Congress in the 2020 election, victories that are not foregone conclusions.

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To: GIdget2004

Trump could probably get a plan out in time... if it were not for the border invasion and all he’s had at him for 2 years.

AFTER the election will probably not sell during time before election.

People are so used to hearing the word “free”, telling them to buy their own and having insurance companies available, does not sound like a good deal... but it is the way it used to be and government was not in decisions of health. The people have to realize getting anything “free”, someone is paying for it and the government would be using those dollars to decide who got treatment and who did not.. and who would die from non care.

Remember the little boy in the UK a year ago... the government would not let the parents take the boy to the US for treatment... the government decided to let him die.. the parents were helpless to save their son... they wanted to do all that was available and the “state” said no..
That is universal health care... that is the government making the most important decision for you, when you are sick.


21 posted on 04/02/2019 7:26:50 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: GIdget2004

GOOD! It was stupid to bring this up in the first place.


22 posted on 04/02/2019 7:30:43 AM PDT by montag813 ("This is Montag, Block 813...")
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To: Junk Silver
Once again we are letting the Leftists frame the argument. I don’t want to talk about how to “replace’ Obamacare, I want to start what is going to be a long process of getting the Federal Government the hell out of the health care business.

I agree. It's like saying we can't end a war until we have a replacement plan. Or, we can't end Nazism until we have a replacement plan.

23 posted on 04/02/2019 7:31:22 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by Whom the world has been crucified to me.)
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To: USCG SimTech

Yes, but he never should have said that then.


24 posted on 04/02/2019 7:31:57 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: GIdget2004

Obamacare won’t be repealed, because it can’t be repealed - or, more exactly, it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.

Members of Congress don’t know much, but they can count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money.

Yes, the voters “hate Obamacare and want it repealed”. That is absolutely true.

It’s also true that they want the ability to buy insurance for pre-existing conditions, want insurance companies to be forbidden to cancel policies for non-payment, want zero payment at the point of service, want their adult children who are smoking dope in a dive in Oakland to stay covered, want their States to expand Medicaid without taxes going up, and so on.

In other words, the only two things they hate about Obamacare are paying for it, and the name.

Republicans in Congress understand this perfectly well, which is why there’s no plan.

And, not coincidentally, Obamacare (and Romneycare) were the culmination of fifty years of “reform”, all of which had the purpose of destroying the private sector or making it impossible for the private sector to function, except for boob jobs and a few other things. And, by 2009, the mission was largely accomplished.

Obamacare was merely a temporary mop-up operation, until full nationalization was possible.

And now, it is.

Like Nixon to China, Trump will propose single payer within the year. It’s really the only way out at this point.

And before you accuse me of favoring it, realize that it will destroy a lifetime of work for me. I don’t like it - I hate it.

But it’s coming, because it’s what the voters, bless their pointy little heads, want.


25 posted on 04/02/2019 7:32:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: JonPreston

Retreats?


26 posted on 04/02/2019 7:38:28 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: LibFreeUSA
1. Trump's 2016 campaign website had a seven-point plan for repealing/fixing ObamaCare.

2. In early 2017 Paul Ryan came up with a "GOP plan" that was almost the same as ObamaCare.

3. President Trump began running around telling everyone how great this GOP plan was.

4. When people like me began posting all over the internet and pointing out that Ryan's "GOP plan" had almost NOTHING in common with the seven-point plan from Trump's campaign ... that page on Trump's website vanished.

There is no Trump plan. There is no GOP plan. Telling people that they can get "better health care for less cost" is like telling people they can pay $500/month for an apartment in Trump Tower.

This is where Trump has to be a political bullshit artist, unfortunately ... because he knows the American voters (INCLUDING A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ON FREE REPUBLIC) want something that doesn't exist.

27 posted on 04/02/2019 7:42:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Alberta's Child

You are correct.


28 posted on 04/02/2019 7:44:09 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Jim Noble

I’m afraid you’re right.

There seems to be a mindset in America that health care is something that shouldn’t be a major expense. I don’t know where that got started, but I’ve even had to disabuse myself of that notion now and then.

I’ve got worsening health problems, and I have had to shell out an increasing amount of cash. I don’t have a problem paying for the services (they are not and should not be free), but I know that the sky-high charges are that way because of Obamacare and people who use the ER as their primary care doctor and don’t pay (because they can’t/won’t or their gubmint insurance will). Basically I’m paying ripoff prices (and premiums for useless “health insurance”) to fund others who don’t pay a dime.

That’s what irks me. But I have a better chance of winning Powerball than seeing Congress do something about that.


29 posted on 04/02/2019 7:45:15 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: GIdget2004

It’s not a retreat but advance in a different direction. Stupid fake news.


30 posted on 04/02/2019 7:48:30 AM PDT by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Alberta's Child

“...because he knows the American voters (INCLUDING A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ON FREE REPUBLIC) want something that doesn’t exist. ....”

Everyone wants something for nothing!
Unfortunately that’s just the way people are!

Republicans just want it done “conservatively”!


31 posted on 04/02/2019 7:50:36 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Alberta's Child
"better health care for less cost"

That does seem to be what everyone is trying to sell. And, yes, it doesn't exist.

I do believe that we could see de-regulation and see lower costs for a lot of people. But that would be in part because they would get less. If they are OK with getting less, great! Enjoy the lower costs!

I don't expect to live forever. I don't expect to always have access to the best cutting-edge medical technology on the planet. I want to take care of myself (that's basically free) and get basic treatment for basic problems. I don't think I should have to pay $20,000 a year for that.

But most people want a heck of a lot more health coverage than what I am expecting. And they want to pay very little for it.

They won't get it. But they will probably vote for politicians who try to sell them "better health care for less cost".

32 posted on 04/02/2019 7:51:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: GIdget2004

Yes, stay fixed on immigration but just put out a plan again already. This is an important issue for anyone who isn’t on Medicare or corporate/government subsidized insurance. ObamaCare sucks. Present something else and promise action after the election because Democrats won’t move on it. Check the box for now but don’t just promise the GOP as the party of healthcare and then drop it... This is a huge middle class issue and we shouldn’t be paying healthcare for illegals when citizens can’t afford insurance. That’s the angle to keep immigration and healthcare both front and center.


33 posted on 04/02/2019 7:56:53 AM PDT by rhombus10
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Exactly correct, so why waste the time?

Build the wall and shove it right up Pelosis ass!


34 posted on 04/02/2019 7:58:25 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: GIdget2004

NY Slimes BS.


35 posted on 04/02/2019 8:34:37 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of today be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Jim Noble

The real issue is that doctor’s wages are way out of line with every other OECD country, and that happened because the AMA has successfully blocked creation of med schools and residencies in sufficient number to control price.


36 posted on 04/02/2019 8:36:16 AM PDT by socalgop
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To: GIdget2004

In dumping this on the Roberts court, Pres Trump realizes that Roberts is a friend of Obamacare for whatever reason. I’d say someone just showed him that Roberts is not going to strike down OCare.

My sense is Roberts will say that just because the tax is now zero doesn’t mean a future Congress won’t again raise it higher. Therefore, he’ll say it’s still a tax...


37 posted on 04/02/2019 8:47:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: socalgop
the AMA has successfully blocked creation of med schools and residencies in sufficient number to control price

And how does the AMA do that?

38 posted on 04/02/2019 8:59:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: rhombus10

“Yes, stay fixed on immigration but just put out a plan again already. This is an important issue for anyone who isn’t on Medicare or corporate/government subsidized insurance.”

I agree. Can’t believe the President doesn’t realize this. Guess he thinks Obamacare is a winning point for independents and doesn’t want to destroy it before the election. But the other option is as you said, put out a very good plan now, better than Obamacare.

Difficult, I know. But medical costs and premiums are a huge expense for most Americans. Those currently on Obamacare at least are getting help with the monthly premiums (though the deductibles are outrageous). The Dems will boast of it to voters regardless of the GOP’s attempts to promise the moon after the election.


39 posted on 04/02/2019 9:11:13 AM PDT by Cedar
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