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People Kill People. But the Bullets Seem to Matter.
nytimes.com ^ | 3/27/2019 | MARGOT SANGER-KATZ and QUOCTRUNG BUI

Posted on 03/31/2019 8:13:00 PM PDT by rktman

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To: SecondAmendment
Without explicitly stating it, the Times is pushing for the U.S. to follow “global norms” for civilian firearms ownership by banning military calibers.

The only constitutional way to use this data is to increase the penalties for a criminal using medium or large caliber arms.

An extra 5 years for 9mm and an extra 10 for .45.

Of course that enhancement will be plea bargained down...

61 posted on 04/01/2019 3:02:52 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Texas Eagle

At the New York Slimes, every day is April Fool’s Day.


62 posted on 04/01/2019 3:04:00 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: rktman

Time to ban oversized “death” bullets. A fully auto, high capacity death-bullet is any bullet over .17 caliber. Some of these death-bullets have bayonets attached. Each death bullet comes with a bump stock which can turn a fully automatic assault, death gun into a SUPERautomatic, high speed, high capacity, death gun revolver. ~ ap reporter


63 posted on 04/01/2019 3:15:25 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (“Individual liberty and freedom are not outmoded concepts.”)
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To: rktman

Professional Hit Men use .22 cal.


64 posted on 04/01/2019 3:59:38 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: rktman

Small bullets with high velocity will still be devastating.....remember the Geneva flak about what an M16 round did because of the shock wave it caused in the blood/fluid system...


65 posted on 04/01/2019 4:46:38 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: rktman

I paid way too much for these 300gr Hornady Ballistic Tip 45 Long Colt rounds to get rid of them at anything less than 1150 fps.... just sayin’


66 posted on 04/01/2019 4:51:31 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: rktman

It’s always obtuse effete effeminate white liberals trying to disarm scary men of color via slapping around us harmless old white dudes who do nothing more than quote the Constitution.


67 posted on 04/01/2019 4:57:52 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: rktman

When I read the serious outrage here I am shocked so many don’t realize this is an April Fools prank.


68 posted on 04/01/2019 4:58:14 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: rktman

An the knives, and the rocks, and the sticks, and the ropes, and the chains, and the hands...

This could go on forever.


69 posted on 04/01/2019 4:58:44 AM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: Manuel OKelley

.357 would make you deaf without ear protection. I shot one out in the open desert and my ears rang for an hour.


70 posted on 04/01/2019 5:12:53 AM PDT by lurk
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To: broken_arrow1

the most fatalities from single shots belong to .22 rimfire. I remember reading this years ago and I’m sure it still true


71 posted on 04/01/2019 5:18:53 AM PDT by cb
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I think they are unwittingly, even unwillingly helping to make the case for more effective calibers. If I need my firearm for personal defense, home defense, or the like then you better believe I want the most effective weapon I can get. Sure, belt fed 30 cal would be great but...fails some of my constraints such as concealment and risk of over penetration.

Obviously effectiveness isn't the only consideration, but it is important. If bigger really is better at stopping, then I want bigger. There is no reasonable, rational argument the anti-gunners can make that says all other things being equal I should accept a less capable tool for protecting myself and my family. Would they argue I should have less effective smoke detectors in my home? A CO detector that only works some times? Maybe I don't need that fire extinguisher in the kitchen, a bucket of water or baking soda will do. Seat belts and airbags in the car, guess those are optional too.

So sure, if they can prove bigger is better, then there's no reason we shouldn't have better. However, I've seen several studies that show no *statistical* difference in effectiveness between some very common handgun calibers in terms of both stopping an assailant and fatality rates. The researchers seemed thorough and careful in their methodology, and explained the constraints, assumptions, and limitations of their work.

72 posted on 04/01/2019 5:27:05 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Texas Eagle
....oh, wait, I get it. April Fool’s

It's April Fools Day all year long at the NY Times.

73 posted on 04/01/2019 6:02:08 AM PDT by SKI NOW
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To: rktman
I was robbed and shot in 1975, w/ .32cal, and survived. I still carry the bullet at the coccyx (bottom of spinal cord), inside the pelvis, just below L/S beltline. It missed all organs, bones, arteries/veins, nerves etc. The hospital's trauma surgeons opted to leave it in. A larger round would have done much more damage.


74 posted on 04/01/2019 6:07:40 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Now I’m sorry I sold my Desert Eagle 50 A&E. The concussion on this thing about knocks your teeth out.

How do I conceal my .444 Marlin?


75 posted on 04/01/2019 6:30:16 AM PDT by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: smokingfrog

Great Chart,
Thanks.


76 posted on 04/01/2019 6:31:16 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: oldenuff35
What kills people is

... the human being pulling the trigger.

77 posted on 04/01/2019 6:31:50 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: junta

I’ll break that down
To a Bumper Sticker!


78 posted on 04/01/2019 6:33:53 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: rktman

I told you so, O'Connor!

79 posted on 04/01/2019 6:36:56 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: carriage_hill

Lead poisoning,,,
Ouch!


80 posted on 04/01/2019 6:37:44 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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