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1 posted on 03/29/2019 12:43:43 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What am I missing? How could it possibly be constitutional for state officials to order a Presidential Elector to vote a particular way?


2 posted on 03/29/2019 12:46:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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The states countervailing the Constitutional requirement for an Electoral College are entering into a “compact”, which is prohibited by the US Constitution.

Article 1, Section 10, US Constitution
“No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any
Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of
Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another
State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless
actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not
admit of delay.”


3 posted on 03/29/2019 12:46:56 PM PDT by fifthvirginia (keeping their memory green)
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The SCOTUS would shoot this down faster than I can down a dozen wings.


4 posted on 03/29/2019 12:47:44 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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It undermines the constitution by a states conspiracy to de facto not follow the constitution.

Because they kmow exactly why the nature of he electoral colege exists, and they are deliberately trying to destroy the safeguards it provides to all states voters.


5 posted on 03/29/2019 12:47:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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No, it just means that if Donald Trump wins the national popular vote, he would end up with all 538 electoral votes.


6 posted on 03/29/2019 12:48:06 PM PDT by laconic
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Abolish the electoral college and CWII is a reality.


7 posted on 03/29/2019 12:49:12 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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The US Constitution leaves it completely up to the states how their electors are chosen AND apportioned (usually enacted by the state legislatures)

That being said, there are issues with the so called “compact” that has been agreed upon by the participating states as well as a violation of the spirit of electoral college Constitutional intent if not the actual letter it’s the law.

Bottom line, if 270+ states electors adopted this law it would for all intents and purposes make the electoral college moot and SCOTUS would likely rule it as unconstitutional in short order. It’s all academic anyway as there is little chance they could ever scratch together the last 50 votes or so to agree to this “compact”.


10 posted on 03/29/2019 1:01:28 PM PDT by traderrob6
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Having lived in Minnesota my entire life, I can tell you that the Democrats in MN are totally without any morals or inhibitions regarding the law or respect for the citizens.

In order to overthrow the EC, I believe a Convention of the States needs to be called to order, a bill needs to pass the convention with a [2/3rds ?] majority of states [not votes], and then each state submits it to their legislatures for a vote - aye or nay. 2/3rds of the state legislatures need to approve of the bill. It is highly unlikely the elimination of the EC will ever happen.

Can anyone verify this information as I am not entirely certain of the majorities needed to pass the bill in the Convention of the states?


12 posted on 03/29/2019 1:04:48 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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Popular vote is like saying only Minneapolis votes count because that is were most of the people live in MN.


17 posted on 03/29/2019 1:13:52 PM PDT by Zathras
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Hell’s Bells.
Minnesota Lawmakers and the electorate have absolutely no idea the Electoral College is stipulated in our Constitution.

The lawmakers are too engrossed in following Sharia Law and the electorate don’t even realize we have a Constitution.


20 posted on 03/29/2019 1:24:46 PM PDT by V K Lee ("VICTORY FOR THE RIGHTEOUS IS JUDGMENT FOR THE WICKED")
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What will put this to rest will be Trump’s 2020 victory where he’ll likely win the popular vote while losing some of these states that would have to cast votes for Trump if the compact is enacted.

Hopefully, that will “horrify” some legislators.

And, yes, with gains in the black and Latino vote, combined with less enthusiasm (because look at the freakin’ candidates), I think I can win the popular vote. Especially if he calls on republicans in California to get out and vote anyway.


23 posted on 03/29/2019 1:33:04 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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“Implementation would mean that the Electoral College would be effectively eliminated, without the bother of a constitutional amendment. A constitutional challenge would follow, of course, and the Supreme Court would have the final say.”

No, the states that are being made irrelevant by the unConstitutional end of Federalism will have the final say if they decide to secede over this.

I know I do not want Wyoming to be made irrelevant.


25 posted on 03/29/2019 1:43:03 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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The bottom line. FReepers, this needs to be spread far and wide.

'nuff said.

Actually, the graphic is wrong. LA County has at least as much population as each of the states in blue.

38 posted on 03/29/2019 3:26:44 PM PDT by upchuck (Home schooled kids are educated, not indoctrinated.)
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