Posted on 03/21/2019 3:31:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
So how long were you in the Navy? I spent many years learning and practicing the art of ASW. How about you?
Did you know that naval warfare is game of probability, statistics and risk management?
Agreed. He conveniently-ignores Sun Tzu’s maxim, “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
That battle has been ongoing for decades.
A very broad subject indeed. I would pose the question: What was the last war that China or Russia fought in where their support lines for sustaining operations stretched halfway around the globe? It is one thing to plan for the next war, but it’s something entirely different to actually carry it out. Also, it will depend greatly on where the war will be carried out, and to what level it is escalated.
Our Navy’s purpose is to defend the sea lanes for our mercantile fleets, and by extension, American citizens in the mercantile industries so that they can conduct trade around the world without being molested. Why is this necessary? It is necessary because as history has demonstrated, somebody always tries to interrupt the sea lanes or American prosperity with belligerence.
Why didn’t Russia send its convoys to the U.S. for supplies during WW2? Recently, China has deployed some of her naval units to the Indian Ocean to protect her shipping interests. Our navy and their navy, with the same goals seemed to cooperate nicely in close proximity to each other. German U-boats nearly strangled the life out of Great Britain in the WW2… it took great naval power along with some intelligence victories to overcome that. Whose navies managed that feat? That’s what navies are for. Currently, China and Russia have little to fear from interdiction of the sea lanes. To my knowledge, we’re not threatening to shut them off from the trade routes around the globe; if anything, we’re encouraging them to trade.
With the vast amounts of money we’re wasting with illegal immigration at the border, we could easily fund the ultimate in technological innovations to equip our Navy, our entire military force worldwide for that matter, and they would be able to deal with just about any contingency that could arise anywhere in the world. Will that happen? No. We, as a citizenry, do not have our act together at all. We don’t have a citizenry that is invested in national strength or resolve. Khrushchev said we’d fall from within. That would be on us for being so stupid.
Unless the coming war with China or Russia is conducted on their home turf close to their support structure, I’m not going to lose too much sleep over this.
I actually bought that book just to see what it postulated ...
The biggest issue about the CVNs is, “how would we respond if/when several of them are sunk in the open ocean in a bolt-from-the blue attack that resulted in zero damage to onshore installations and zero civilian casualties?”
It’s a serious issue. The people here who answer that we would promptly kill tens of millions of Chinese civilians are, I believe, incorrect.
If it were necessary for the Chinese masses to eat grass for a century in order to destroy the USA, do you doubt that the Politburo would hesitate?
I would use low-yield nuclear weapons from orbit.
So, like, what is supposed to be happening? Does the author anticipate that China is going to invade us? Seriously? Or are we launching at them?
Usually I like Kurt Schlickter but he’s really drinking the kool aid on this one.
War will come during a global recession/depression, not before.
Me: Do you think we will be able to fight a war with China entirely on our terms?
You: “Then we won’t fight the war at all.”
Me: It must be nice, living in Fairy-Tale-Land. Half-price sale on my unicorns this weekend! Stock up!
Like Obama said - if we get hit with nukes, we can just absorb it and move on ... the txxd.
Not only did Clinton sell every military secret he could lay his mitts on (including the miniaturized Klystron switch need to make a thermonuclear ICBM warhead), but also allowed the Chinese PLAN to be stationed on US capitol ships during war-games so they could catch up ...
The Chinese are not going to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. They might try to take out some competitors but we are their cash cow.
Large armies are expensive to maintain. if China is going to fight anyone, it will be India or Vietnam. I’m surprise they haven’t turn Somalia into a vassal state.
I believe when we are gaming against any other power - including the Israelis, we lose. But, that does not take into account the parameters of the US war game which is too often rigged to lose - assets not available, assets are forbidden to participate and stuff alone the lines of fighting with both arms in a straight jacket. So take the losing at war games with some salt - lots of it.
Wow. Chinas long term strategy is world domination and they will damn well war with us when the time is right, when we've off-shored all industry and can't defend ourselves.
Not to mention carriers are incredibly difficult to sink - usually taking a team planting charges at critical points
But it isn’t the PLAN... Yet...
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