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Eight elite schools hit with first lawsuit in massive college admissions bribery scam
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Posted on 03/14/2019 7:04:45 AM PDT by outpostinmass2

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To: outpostinmass2

Where is IRS? Per Singer, the fixer, bribes were funneled through his charity.


41 posted on 03/14/2019 7:47:53 AM PDT by masadaman
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To: grania

When did they stop IQ tests?...I’ve seen people here say they know their IQ..I’m old and never knew mine. Maybe I was in the dummy class, tho.


42 posted on 03/14/2019 7:48:02 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: goodnesswins
In MA, it was about 1976 when ID tests stopped being part of the permanent record. As a math teacher, I missed that tool as a way to identify untapped math potential. I had a short test I wrote on my own so I'd have an indication of analytical skills potential of a student.

Here's a tidbit: One thing I asked them is how many of them played with that Fischer-Price "shapes" sphere (put the shape through its space) when they were young. The correlation between those that did and those who earned a B+ or better in Geometry was very high.

43 posted on 03/14/2019 7:58:34 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: outpostinmass2

I haven’t heard of any prominent politicians named. Just the so called famous people from hollywood,

You know there’s a bunch of prominent politicians who’s names are being held back at the moment.


44 posted on 03/14/2019 7:59:14 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: TheConservator

I agree to an extent, but it will be easy to prove that the schools were well aware that a quid pro quo was involved. They are not naive.

Many lawsuits do not succeed in court but serve to elevate awareness of unethical or semi-legal practices that ultimately are eliminated or greatly disfavored. Ask yourself what the odds are today for a movie producers to implement the “casting couch”.

So even if these actions only serve to put a halt to “pay to play” or at least minimize it and restore a greater sense of fairness to college admissions, they will have served a valuable purpose. Smaller schools who nobody pays indulgences to have their kid attend will benefit as well.

That said, any financial proceeds ought to go to trades schools and community colleges who prepare people for actual jobs in the real world that these elites have so much disdain for.


45 posted on 03/14/2019 8:01:49 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: grania

Haha...I must not have played with that toy...I hated Geometry and it was my worst ever grade. (C-) Algebra and Calculus (college) I excelled in.


46 posted on 03/14/2019 8:06:52 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: bert
Actually, these are criminal proceedings rather than civil suits. At least one of the defendants has been released on a $$1 million bond

Isn't the IRS a part of this too.? Tax exempt foundation or the like?

47 posted on 03/14/2019 8:07:55 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: grania

I was wondering this morning if this is why 0bozo sealed all of his college records, and no one in his classes remembered ever seeing him in class. Fake diplomas all around for the well-to-do. Or those being groomed for the communist takeover.


48 posted on 03/14/2019 8:12:11 AM PDT by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6)
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To: grania
"Having trouble with Algebra 1" can mean not getting it as fast as the other kids or not getting consistent A's.

Harvard is always going to take a president's child (at least one of them), unless they really hate the president or the child is wildly below their standards.

It gives the school more of an "in" with the government, and it's great publicity. Look at what accepting a probably less than academically qualified JFK Jr. did for Brown University.

Since the range of acceptable scores for African-American women is lower than those for some other categories, a Black girl who went to respectable private school shouldn't have much trouble getting in if she is the president's daughter.

49 posted on 03/14/2019 8:20:21 AM PDT by x
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To: grania

Two of these schools are at the top of my grandson’s list. One of them doesn’t require SATs.


50 posted on 03/14/2019 8:23:55 AM PDT by surrey
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It doesn't excuse it. And don't forget to add to the list a GWB daughter at Yale. (legacy, but still....) One of the silver linings to this is that Affirmative Action could be exposed for the damage it has done.

These exceptions do great harm to the folks they're supposed to help. The students would be far better off if they were all held to the same standard, and those who meet it will be considered. Think about it. With Affirmative Action, we don't even know who the best minority students might be. Affirmative Action means there's a lower standard that some less than most qualified students will meet.

51 posted on 03/14/2019 8:28:34 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: Don Corleone

I don’t know


52 posted on 03/14/2019 8:29:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: surrey

Is the scandal making him rethink his choices?


53 posted on 03/14/2019 8:29:30 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: MNDude

If I were Congressional investigators, you know what I’d like to see: the list of parents caught red-handed by the Feebs, but who are NOT being prosecuted....


54 posted on 03/14/2019 8:31:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: grania

legacy....... different situation entirely.

Legacy also applies to state universities and the Marine corps


55 posted on 03/14/2019 8:32:12 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: Don Corleone

If any of those parents took a tax deduction for the bribe, they could be in very deep doo-doo.

Another list I’d like to see: Varsity Blues tax cheats the IRS is NOT going after...


56 posted on 03/14/2019 8:33:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Don Corleone
The people who get charged will have to hire lawyers to try to keep them out of jail, or to minimize the time they have to serve. There will still be a court fine though.

And they'll have to hire lawyers to contend with the IRS. Now that fraud has been uncovered, who knows how far back into their filings the IRS can go. And THAT is going to be expensive too!

57 posted on 03/14/2019 8:34:00 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: surrey

I doubt it.


58 posted on 03/14/2019 8:41:00 AM PDT by surrey
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To: grania

If colleges start using grades, SAT scores and AP test scores only as a basis of admission, which I don’t disagree with, then soon all CA colleges—and perhaps many others nationwide— will be nearly 100% Asian-American.

And kudos to them for their work ethic and emphasis on academics.


59 posted on 03/14/2019 8:50:44 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: susannah59
This kind of stuff has been going on forever.

Years ago I attended a graduation at Stetson Law School. George Steinbrenner was the speaker. He spoke with pride about his son competing with this highly intelligent but poor student. The student who was at an 'elite' school on full scholarship was planning on dropping out because expenses and part time jobs etc were too much.

Steinbrenner's son didn't want the competition between the two to stop and he didn't want to embarrass his rival so he called on his father. George Steninbrenner went to the school (I believe it was Harvard but I'm not sure) and offered to pay for two new buildings if they could figure out a way to keep this poor kid in college without him knowing the money was coming from him.

The kid stayed - and the school got two new buildings.

Of course not many billionaires are doing this for the benefit of poor students - but it's a great story about a good man.

60 posted on 03/14/2019 8:56:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are attacking Ivanka & Jared ostensibly on security clearances - reality is antisemitism)
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