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United Methodist Traditional Plan Advances (Church exit, also. Historic Christianity being affirmed)
Juicy Ecumenism ^ | 25 Mar 19 | Mark Tooley

Posted on 02/25/2019 2:22:35 PM PST by xzins

Delegates at United Methodism’s General Conference in St. Louis, meeting as legislative committee, endorsed the Traditional Plan by 56% to 44%. The plan, which would strengthen the church’s policies defining marriage as male/female, will be voted on again by the delegates in plenary tomorrow.

The One Church Plan to liberalize the church’s policy on sexuality was rejected 53% to 47%. It is now defeated unless there’s an attempt to bring it tomorrow’s plenary as minority report.

Also approved were two petitions allowing congregations who can’t abide the church’s marriage teaching to leave the denomination with their property. Potentially some liberal churches consequently would leave United Methodism.

Most liberals opposed these plans for “gracious exit.” But pro-LGBTQ retired clergy Mike Slaughter of West Ohio spoke in favor of one petition, saying he did not wish to remain in a church that was not entirely affirming for all.

About 800 United Methodist congregations out of over 30,000 in America have declared themselves “reconciling” i.e. opposed to church policy on sexuality. These petitions also will go before the plenary session tomorrow.

Potentially the Judicial Council, top court for the denomination, will will rule on the constitutionality of these proposals. USA evangelicals and overseas delegates provided consistent majorities for these petitions.

Many liberal church activists and institutionalists remain surprised by the global support for the Traditional Plan, having assumed the liberalizing One Church Plan backed by most bishops would prevail. Efforts by USA church officials to cajole overseas delegates into supporting the One Church Plan have so far failed.

It remains to be seen whether liberal churches will form a new denomination after General Conference if the Traditional Plan passes. The next General Conference in 2020 will see a further shift in delegate strength towards Africa and away from America, making change in traditional church policy even more unlikely.


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KEYWORDS: homosexuality; liberalism; methodist; umc
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To: xzins

maybe they figured out that as the fag flags went up, membership went down.


21 posted on 02/25/2019 3:23:04 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: xzins

Comprehensive study on gay rights:

http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-rights


22 posted on 02/25/2019 3:30:13 PM PST by grumpa
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To: kaehurowing

The common denominator in all these fake churches is the National Council of Churches. They must be destroyed as they were formed to promote communism. Read the history.


23 posted on 02/25/2019 3:32:20 PM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: lightman

Thank you.


24 posted on 02/25/2019 3:34:43 PM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: Wm F Buckley Republican

Absolutely. Imagine my surprise when I read in the early 2000’s, that the United Methodist Church was sending money to CASTRO. Not the Cuban people, to CASTRO!


25 posted on 02/25/2019 3:45:29 PM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: xzins

47%?


26 posted on 02/25/2019 3:58:17 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: xzins
Amazing and wonderful!

Reverend Jerry Kulah's remarks were so powerful and inspiring:

African United Methodists Won’t Trade Bible for Dollars

27 posted on 02/25/2019 4:20:22 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("The twilight hour of socialism has arrived in our hemisphere." --Trump to Venezuelans, 2/18/19)
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To: sphinx
Which means that faithful Methodists must not stop now

Amen!

Totally agree with everything you said.

28 posted on 02/25/2019 4:33:30 PM PST by Texan
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To: originalbuckeye

I’m old enough to remember the Cuban revolution and the role of the National Council of Churches in bringing Castro to power. The Methodist church was involved in returning Elian Gonzales to Cuba. They’re a bunch of commie-lovers at the top and if the UMC is to be saved, they must divorce the NCC.


29 posted on 02/25/2019 4:34:38 PM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: xzins

Bump!


30 posted on 02/25/2019 4:52:50 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wm F Buckley Republican
The Methodist church was involved in returning Elian Gonzales to Cuba.

I remember when a picture of Angela Davis dancing down the isle of a Methodist church on the arm of the pastor, made front page news.

31 posted on 02/25/2019 5:03:16 PM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Yep, and I think just voted themselves raises!!!

I say, let’s have bishops as they do in Africa-—1 for 400,000 members vs. 100,000 members!!!


32 posted on 02/25/2019 5:09:24 PM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Elsie
53% to 47%

Such a narrow margin is a disaster.

33 posted on 02/25/2019 5:59:40 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: xzins
Soldiers of Christ, Arise!
34 posted on 02/25/2019 7:32:38 PM PST by OddLane
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To: xzins; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; SunkenCiv

It’s still sickening the vote was that close. They need to kick out the anti-Christian/Sodomite-worship wing and they do NOT get to keep the property of the church.


35 posted on 02/25/2019 8:42:33 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It’s tempting to be vindictive because you know they would not give traditionalists the same consideration if the roles were reversed, but I think it’s still the right thing to do, because who knows what the future will bring?


36 posted on 02/25/2019 9:07:28 PM PST by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength.)
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To: sam_whiskey

I don’t consider it vindictive. They are willfully and deliberately perverting the word of God into a worship of something expressly unholy and a distortion of the relationship between men and women. It is sin worship and it is Satanic. Those that follow the words of those misleading their flocks that this is morally acceptable are having their souls flagrantly endangered.

That the church would willingly allow those in complete and utter disobedience to doctrine and to God himself to walk off with their properties acquired in their good name is simply absurd. I would call it theft by fraud.

If they wish their own anti-Christian cult that worships sodomy, let them establish it with their own means.


37 posted on 02/25/2019 9:43:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Albion Wilde; xzins
Hallelujah!!
38 posted on 02/25/2019 9:48:41 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: xzins
Potentially some liberal churches consequently would leave United Methodism.

Most liberals opposed these plans for “gracious exit.” But pro-LGBTQ retired clergy Mike Slaughter of West Ohio spoke in favor of one petition, saying he did not wish to remain in a church that was not entirely affirming for all.

Thank you for leaving Mike Slaughter. now you can take your congregations money and building with you. Enjoy it while it lasts....

39 posted on 02/26/2019 2:07:31 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: xzins
Many liberal church activists and institutionalists remain surprised by the global support for the Traditional Plan, having assumed the liberalizing One Church Plan backed by most bishops would prevail. Efforts by USA church officials to cajole overseas delegates into supporting the One Church Plan have so far failed.

God bless the Africans! Africa is coming to America's rescue

40 posted on 02/26/2019 2:16:32 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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