Posted on 02/18/2019 6:14:05 PM PST by george76
"The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage."
We will never add the votes from states together because the President is not the President of the people, he is president of 50 STATES. Donald Trump is President Of the United States, not president of the united people. The latter would be an entirely different form of government.
Good point. Also the impact of block voting or special interest voting is diminished by the same reasoning.
What is killing the fair vote is
early absentee. and votes that are
mysteriously found after voting
deadlines. The latter should not be
counted. Didn’t vote in time? Too
bad. New Mexico southern district
is a prime example. 3500 votes
which decided an election, we’re
counted after the deadline. It’s
very easy to cheat the system.
<>We have a perfectly good Constitution, which has served us well for over two centuries;<>
Then why was it amended 27 times? What about that black-robed cabal, the Scotus, that amends the Constitution when it pleases?
The Compact is already in operation for the states that have agreed to it. I believe there are 13 of them? The goal is to make the big cities all powerful electorally and to marginalize flyover country.
It is not only the lower classes who vote for the Band C. It is generally the economic and societal drones which includes a lot of wealthy unproductive scions and trust funders. It also includes productive people who made their money too fast and have no idea where it came from. It just fell out of the sky on them. It was so easy that poor people must be poor because other people are stealing all the manna.
Looking a little deeper, the first purpose of the EC was to elevate only men of national stature, wisdom, experience and public virtue to the executive office. And as you imply, the winner would assume office without any political debts whatsoever to a factional party or divisive segment of society; his duty was to “serve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Donald Trump - The Echo of our Framers' Uncorrupted President.
The Uniform Commercial Code is a fifty-state compact in all but name.
Those who think the NPV will be shot down on the basis of being an unauthorized compact will be in for a rude awakening. From precedent, the Scotus LOVES democracy, the popular element to governing. It loves it so much that it elevated the franchise to what it calls a “fundamental right.” The states can allocate their electoral votes as they see fit and no court will stop them.
A popular vote would result in a system very similar to the Hunger Games with the large cities ruling over the rural areas.
The Compact, by its own terms, goes into effect when approved by enough States equally a majority of the electoral votes for President (270 or more). It's about a 100 short of that. So it is merely a proposal right now.
It is not a capital C Compact yet but it is a compact in that the states that have entered into it intend to adhere to it even if no others follow suit.
Then California, New York and the rest will find some reason to void the law they made just to avoid voting the same way as flyover country.
What, for example, are the recount rules?
What if no one gets a majority of the votes?
What if multiple parties now spring up to ensure that no one ever gets a majority vote?
‘And that is exactly what will happen in any state where a Republican presidential candidate wins the national popular vote but loses an NPV state.’
there are two chances for a Pub winning the popular vote going forward; none, and less than none...last happened, 2004, with an exceptionally weak and little known Dem running against an incumbent, and that margin was 3 million votes from a total of 121 million, .024 percent of the vote total...
‘Then California, New York and the rest will find some reason to void the law they made’
they have not ‘made’ any law; this compact will not take effect until sufficient states totalling 270 electors have signed on...
Basically, after delegating to state voters their state legislature’s power to appoint cast their electoral votes for president, they are now setting up some conditions to under which they would rescind that delegation and have the state legislature ignore the will of the majority of its voters.
So why not skip that charade and just rescind the delegation altogether, and leave voters out of this process, as was done when our country first started? Either delegate that power or take it back, so the voters in your state know whether or not their vote truly matters.
NPV opens EVERY state to out-of-state challenges to electoral procedure lawsuits and investigations of fraud, until every other state is satisfied.
Think about the ramifications of that, assuming we can find any R’s with testiculars.
Without the Electoral College, the Constitution would not have been ratified, and the “United States” of America would not exist.
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