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1 posted on 02/11/2019 5:52:35 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Didn’t Hussein’s green deal already fail. Ya know, Solyndra, weather proofing brown shirts, hammering coal companies, blocking oil leases, pipelines, etc..


2 posted on 02/11/2019 5:57:50 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.r)
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> to be “accomplished through a 10-year national mobilization” <

Kinda reminds me of Stalin’s old five-year plans. Goals were set without any connection to reality. Miss your goal, and you’re a “wrecker”. It’s off to the gulag with you!

I guess that part of Ocasio-Cortez’s plan will be rolled out later.


3 posted on 02/11/2019 6:00:59 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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There’s a method to their madness. First they float a very extreme green strategy. Alarms everyone but the enviro wingnuts. Then, they back off, drop the banning of internal combustion engines (for now) and commercial aircraft. Then, the mushy middle, aka suburban women, think oh, ok they’re not so bad afterall. I can live with that. Will work like a charm. Guarantee it...


4 posted on 02/11/2019 6:03:48 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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Some have suggested the sheer audacity of the plan is more important than the policy details or its immediate legislative prospects, because it will move the so-called “Overton Window”: By expanding the bounds of political discourse, the Green New Deal will make other climate proposals appear more moderate than they do today and improve their prospects for passage.

As has been suggested, this isn't about climate at all...but it is about shifting the "Overton Window."

This resolution has put the discussion of "socialism" front and center (i.e. expanded the "Overton Window" leftward to include it).

Whomever it is that is backing AOC (certainly the Democratic Socialists of America but who else?) isn't sitting on the sidelines looking for a chance to get in the game.

They have elbowed their way right into the center of things and this session is just getting started.

5 posted on 02/11/2019 6:04:44 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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The Green New Deal will go the same way as “Earth Day”, a nothing burger eaten by kooks.


6 posted on 02/11/2019 6:07:18 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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It is only fair that those backing the "Green New Deal' start living by it's standards from the git-go.

No more flights to their districts, vegan food ONLY, travel only by electric vehicles, no electricity except that produced by renewable sources like solar and windmills...

7 posted on 02/11/2019 6:09:32 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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I wish opponents would focus on what it requires rather than what it hopes to achieve. It requires elimination of 2 (at least) principles our country was founded on

1) Consent of the governed - stated in the preamble to the Declaration of Independence
2) Property rights - the 16th has eroded this right, but the green new deal would end it

Neither party cares about these now but it’s still possible for them to regain some respect. Once the bureaucracy and revenue/tax mechanisms are put in place to implement the green new deal, these two principles will be almost impossible to get back without a change of government.

Progressives will try to convince people that only “the rich” will be taxed. We need to educate people that EVERYONE (and their employer) will lose the right to property as long as our country exists - restoring rights is VERY RARE while continuous expansion of government power (and need for our money) has happened in every government in history. The end of the country will have started once we lose property rights and more often than not replacing the government is not pretty.


12 posted on 02/11/2019 6:25:01 AM PST by LostPassword
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By expanding the bounds of political discourse, the Green New Deal will make other climate proposals appear more moderate than they do today and improve their prospects for passage.

one of the rules for negotiating is:

Aim your aspirations high. Your aspirations will likely be the single most important factor in determining the outcome of the negotiation. You can aim high just as easily as you can aim low.

15 posted on 02/11/2019 6:39:32 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Just call it what it is. The Contract Against America. Which really means, in the twisted and warped minds of progs, a Contract Against Free Markets. Or, Contract for Tyranny, if you want the nuts and bolts version.


18 posted on 02/11/2019 7:13:00 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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She's a believer in magic. She believes the two incantations, "green" and "New Deal" have magical properties.
25 posted on 02/11/2019 11:09:23 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF)
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Hi.

“What has been put forth is only a resolution calling on Congress to draft Green New Deal legislation, not detailed legislation itself. “

I understand, mental masturbation.

5.56mm


26 posted on 02/11/2019 11:10:46 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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