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State of the Union Fact Check: What Trump Got Right and Wrong (my addition: You'll LOL!)
New York Slimes via MSN ^ | 6 Feb 2019 | 19 Separate people!

Posted on 02/06/2019 9:00:44 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

President Trump leaned hard on the strength of the American economy during his second State of the Union address on Tuesday, but with a blend of precise statistics and gauzy superlatives that are much more difficult to measure.

He also returned to a theme that dominated the second year of his presidency — a quest for a border wall with Mexico to cope with what he said is a crisis of crime and drugs in the United States caused by illegal immigration.

The two issues dominated his address, which in tone was more measured than his biting Twitter feed, but in substance contained numerous claims that were false or misleading.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fakenews; nyt; silly; slimes
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I'll go over what they "said" about his statements in the text.
1 posted on 02/06/2019 9:00:44 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Here’s the “authors” or busy propagandists:

Reporting was contributed by Eileen Sullivan, Michael Tackett, Linda Qiu, Edward Wong, Eric Lipton, Eric Schmitt, Adam Liptak, Binyamin Appelbaum, Caitlin Dickerson, Charlie Savage, Coral Davenport, Glenn Thrush, Helene Cooper, Jim Tankersley, Julian E. Barnes, Katie Benner, Matt Phillips, Robert Pear and Thomas Gibbons-Neff.


2 posted on 02/06/2019 9:01:41 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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First one:

The economy

“The U.S. economy is growing almost twice as fast today as when I took office, and we are considered far and away the hottest economy anywhere in the world.”

This is false.

The American economy expanded at an annual rate of 3.5 percent in the third quarter of 2018. Growth in Latvia and Poland was almost twice as fast. Same for China and India. Even the troubled Greek economy posted stronger growth. And a wide range of economic analysts estimate that the growth of the American economy slowed in the fourth quarter, and slowed even further in the first month of 2019.

Latvia?! Poland?! No NY Slimes, the economy of the USA is a monster compared to theirs! THAT makes it hot or hottest. China and India have also done well, but that comes down to US doing well to contribute to their numbers as we buy their crap. BTW, spending is also part of the economy.

3 posted on 02/06/2019 9:05:14 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Number two:

“We recently imposed tariffs on $250 billion of Chinese goods — and now our Treasury is receiving billions and billions of dollars.”

This is true.

Since Mr. Trump imposed tariffs on certain imports from China — and imported steel and aluminum from around the world — federal tariff revenues have increased. Revenues from customs duties, which include tariffs, rose by $13 billion in the third quarter of 2018 compared with a year earlier, the Commerce Department reported. Technically, that money is paid by Americans who bring the goods across the border, and it is often passed on to American consumers in the form of higher prices.

Of course, 19 Slimes propagandists leave out how American steel benefits, domestic production increases, and American workers get hired.

4 posted on 02/06/2019 9:08:08 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

This whole list should be fired for malfeasance.


5 posted on 02/06/2019 9:08:25 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Alas Babylon!

The opinion of Socialists and Chinese spies is just what the doctor ordered.
Yummy.


6 posted on 02/06/2019 9:09:10 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (No hay dos sin tres)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Oh,goody! The Slimes is “fact checking”. This should be worth a few chuckles!


7 posted on 02/06/2019 9:09:50 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
3rd:

"My administration has cut more regulations in a short period of time than any other administration during its entire tenure.”

This is false.

The Trump administration has slowed the pace of adopting new rules, and it has moved to roll back some existing or proposed federal regulations, particularly in the area of environmental protection. The White House claimed that as of October, a total of $33 billion worth of future regulator costs had been eliminated. But experts say the scale of the rollbacks in the Trump era still does not exceed extensive cuts in federal rules during the Carter and Reagan administrations, when rules governing airline, truck and rail transportation were wiped off the books, among other changes.

Experts say... Some people say... Guess what, Slimes, keeping the greenies from destroying American common sense achievements for the sake of Mother Gaia is HUGE!!! Bigly!

This isn't false because it's opinion based on YOUR part.

8 posted on 02/06/2019 9:11:08 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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Also, of course, they leave out the trillions of $ the Paris Accords would have cost us...

Donald J. Trump put the kaput to THAT!


9 posted on 02/06/2019 9:12:42 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Number 4:

“We have created 5.3 million new jobs and importantly added 600,000 new manufacturing jobs — something which almost everyone said was impossible to do, but the fact is, we are just getting started.”

This is false.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that since January 2017, when Mr. Trump took office, the economy has added 4.9 million jobs, including 454,000 jobs manufacturing jobs. Far from being “impossible,” that is closely comparable to the pace of job creation during some two-year periods during the Obama administration, and significantly slower than the pace of job creation in manufacturing in the 1990s.

LOL, Slimes!

Some two-year periods of Obama?! Funny. Some.

Here's Obama's OWN words on job creation in the USA:

“What we have to do is to make sure that folks are trained for the jobs that are coming in now because some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back,” Obama said bluntly during the event broadcast on PBS.

But Obama was skeptical that Trump could fulfill his promise.

“There’s no answer to it. He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’ Well, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have?” Obama asked. “And usually, the answer is he doesn’t have an answer.” Obama insisted that the “good old days” of manufacturing were over, thanks to technology.

Proof. Trump ten times the job maker than the "Err...those jobs, err.. are just not comin' back" Obamanation!

10 posted on 02/06/2019 9:18:39 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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“It does not broadly allow abortions until shortly before birth, as Mr. Trump suggested. Instead, it will allow for an abortion after 24 weeks to protect the mother’s health or if the fetus is not viable.”

IT includes the broadest definition of health as possible. All a woman has to do to get a 9 month abortion is claim that her mental health will be impacted.


11 posted on 02/06/2019 9:19:22 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Being woke means you can be nasty and hateful and use and racist slurs but feel morally superior.)
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Five:

Wages were “growing for blue-collar workers, who I promised to fight for. They are growing faster than anyone thought possible.”

This is true.

Wages are rising faster for construction and manufacturing workers than workers in service occupations, according to the Labor Department.

And true BECAUSE of Donald J. Trump, you 19 slimes!

Referring to Obama's quote I put in number 4, I guess Donald Trump DID have a magic wand!

12 posted on 02/06/2019 9:21:46 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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Six (ad I'm done...too much work!):

“More people are working now than at any time in our history.”

This is misleading.

While the total number of people working in the United States is higher than ever, it is not because of the president’s policies. It is because more people than ever live in the United States.

No, snort, not misleading. True. Until deaths in the USA top births and immigration, the population is always rising. You might as well say he can NEVER say this. It's over-nitpicking by 19 chicken sh1ts.

13 posted on 02/06/2019 9:25:11 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

NYT for fact checking? Really? Do even liberals put any faith in the Times any more?


14 posted on 02/06/2019 9:28:02 AM PST by Spok
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To: Alas Babylon!

local paper this am of course had the ‘fact check’- apparently, according to them- He lied the whole SOTU speech-

When obama was president, i don’t remember the paper running fact checks on him- ever- yet everytime trump speaks, by golly there is the ‘fact check’ the next morning-


15 posted on 02/06/2019 9:28:06 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Alas Babylon!
I thought that President Trump hit it out of the park!


16 posted on 02/06/2019 9:30:44 AM PST by yoe (This "war" between USA parties is about the Constitution. Capitolism and Marxism.)
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I don’t care what they say, President Trump made them all go to a Trump Rally!!! USA USA USA


17 posted on 02/06/2019 9:44:11 AM PST by Garvin (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Took a lot of minions of the Ministry of Propaganda to try to spin this.

We all heard one of the best State of the Union speeches ever and they are helpless to make us unhear it.


18 posted on 02/06/2019 10:02:13 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I am surprised they said anything was true. So quick on the false though. ‘Hottest’ economy is a subjective statement. Who knows what he meant? Did he say the economy with the largest GDP gain in the world? No.


19 posted on 02/06/2019 10:05:22 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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‘Hottest’ economy is a subjective statement.

And they complained he didn't mention Global Warming.

20 posted on 02/06/2019 10:06:28 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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