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1 posted on 01/26/2019 12:48:18 AM PST by vannrox
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I’m not in the United States but I sympathize with the Trump movement. I think the major weakness of that movement is a lack of actual organization. It is spontaneous support for a president who has used the Republican Party as his foundation, but it remains true that the Republican Party is not really the same thing as the Trump movement, so if he were to be forced out of office, you would only have the Republican Party as a possible organizer of counter-measures and one suspects that they would go through motions and do very little, as they did when they had political leverage in the last two years.

Trump cannot do all this by himself. He needs an organized political movement and I think it will have to be name-specific and unhitched from the GOP, unless some sort of groundswell occurs within the party to say, yes, this is the Trump movement, one and the same thing. Then they have to walk the walk on that, and replace any leadership that is not 110% committed to the cause.

Otherwise a nasty situation is going to develop where various pro-Trump forces take it upon themselves, with no central organization, to resist the deep state coup as you describe it.

Unless some significant portions of the armed forces and the police resist this deep state coup, it will likely succeed or, possibly, lead to sectarian violence here and there with no clearly stated goals by those fighting the coup.

It’s in the nature of conservatives to react rather than to plan ahead. In this particular case we might want to rethink that and plan ahead now, while it is still possible to do so, and while the President is still in office.

The time of sitting back and waiting to see the master plan unfold is perhaps about to be cut short by the grim reality that the other side have a great deal of power and determination to crush this movement, with the media fully complicit. Here again, we need to identify trusted media for our side and get them onto a counter-revolutionary footing so that they don’t become lost in the maze of false flag fake news that is bound to come at us in some final phase of this conflict.


2 posted on 01/26/2019 3:08:55 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Take the next train to Marxville)
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Millions, if not tens of millions, of people who voted for Trump will rise up in fury and begin a violent clash between the libtards in the cities and those of us who have prepared for the event. Or, we won’t. Who knows?


3 posted on 01/26/2019 3:30:13 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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>>This isn’t merely a question for Trump supporters, but for anyone who still thinks that a political system that isn’t completely run by thugs, with only a simulacrum of democracy as window dressing, is something worth trying to maintain and improve. <<

It is a fool’s errand to attempt to save the Union. The ideological gap between left and right is far to wide to ever bridge. They are polar opposites.

The best we can hope for is an amicable split. Fredrick Douglas wondered if the US is just to large an area to be governed by one central government in Washington. It is, a “one size fits all” system is not working.

The sooner the majority of people in this country realize that and start the process of diving the nation in a peaceful manner, the better. Otherwise, we will continue our slow decent into hell.


8 posted on 01/26/2019 3:44:54 PM PST by Tejas Rob
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