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Nominee William Barr explaining his views on the Second Amendmnt.
1 posted on 01/19/2019 5:17:45 AM PST by marktwain
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Only relevant if the Deep State stooge is being honest.


2 posted on 01/19/2019 5:19:55 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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Gee. A logical, common sense approach to the issue of so-called gun control. The meaning of the term mentally ill is going to be the next real battle ground. Some on the left consider being religious a type of madness. Does that mean we take guns from Christians?

For my part, the glaring hypocrisy is the white elephant called black on black murder that no one gives a shat about. Young blacks are cappin one another with 9s...AKs not so much. And then we move on to the even more nauseating topic of gun laws..Chicago anyone?

The Hitlerian left will not stop until our nation is irreparably dismantled and destroyed. Half the battle is won. Most people of good will are indifferent and painfully credulous. They’ve got their bread and circus. Unless the mass of these lukewarm moderates wakes up and takes a stand, when the hostiles move in it will be like clubbin baby seals.


4 posted on 01/19/2019 5:44:45 AM PST by KierkegaardMAN (This is the sort of stuff up with which I shall not put!)
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I forgot where I heard yesterday that Trump was having second thoughts about Barr because of his friendship with Mueller. Like no one told him about that before his selection? It tells me someone else is selecting and is not looking out for his...and our best interest. I would rather have someone else totally independent from the swamp.


6 posted on 01/19/2019 6:01:40 AM PST by HighSierra5
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As I said, just a moment ago, lets get down to the real problem we are confronting, which is keeping these weapons out of the hands of people who are mentally ill. I think all the rest of this stuff is really, essentially rhetoric, until we get that problem dealt with; in terms of regulatory approaches.”

I have a simple, clear approach: if a person is too dangerous to be allowed to have a gun, then he is too dangerous to be free on the streets.

Courts should be able to convict people of being "a danger to themselves or others"-level of crazy, and put away. Until that point, they have full rights, including 2nd Amendment rights.

8 posted on 01/19/2019 6:41:26 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: marktwain

Until Trump signs some new anti-gun legislation for him to enforce, there’s not much to worry about Barr’s opinions.


9 posted on 01/19/2019 6:53:12 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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RKBA Ping List


This Ping List is for all things pertaining to the 2nd Amendment.

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More 2nd Amendment related articles on FR's Bang List.

10 posted on 01/19/2019 6:53:25 AM PST by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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What he said made sense - the problem is that we no longer trust them to use proper due process when making some decisions.


17 posted on 01/19/2019 8:16:18 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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From the referenced article:
William P. Barr: "And so there is no question under Heller that the right to have weapons, firearms, is protected under the Second Amendment and is a personal right. At the same time there is room for reasonable regulation [??? emphasis added]."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

In our constitutional republic, the feds are obligated to reasonably justify any official action with an express constitutional power delegated to it by the states.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

If the feds cannot justify a given law then the law is unconstitutional imo.

Although the feds have the specific constitutional power to regulate military related arms, there is no express delegation of power to regulate peacetime civil arms imo.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that, until the ratification of the 14th Amendment (14A), the states had never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to make peacetime civil penal laws, not even to deal with murder.

From the 14th Amendment:

Note that the Supreme Court had clarified in Minor v. Happersett that 14A gives the feds the power only to protect citizens’ constitutionally enumerated protections from abridgment by the states.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

In fact, note that the congressional record shows that Bingham had included the 2nd Amendment (2A) when he read the Bill of Rights as examples of personal protections that 14A applies to the states.

John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See 2nd Amendment about in middle of 2nd column.)

Ironically, regarding federal civil gun laws, the Supreme Court's clarification of 14A means that the feds have only the narrow power to make gun-related laws to STRENGTHEN 2A from abridgment by state actors imo.

Despite Bingham's clarification of Congress's 14A power to strengthen 2nd Amendment protections, it is disturbing that civil gun laws seem to have started appearing in the federal books during the time of the FDR Administration, FDR and the congress at the time infamous for making laws that greatly overstepped the fed's constitutionally limited powers.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

The remedy for unconstitutionally big federal government …

Patriots need to support PDJT by electing a patriot congress in 2020 elections that will not only support PDJT's vision for MAGA, but will also remove unconstitutional federal laws from the books, especially civil gun-control laws.

PDJT will also need to work with Congress to decide the fate of people in prison for breaking federal laws that the post-17th Amendment ratification feds never had the express constitutional authority to make.

26 posted on 01/19/2019 10:38:06 AM PST by Amendment10
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William Barr told Senator Dianne Feinstein:

“I think we need to push along the ERPOs [gun confiscation] so that we have these ‘Red Flag’ laws to supplement the use of background checks [gun registration] ... this is the single most important thing I think we can do in the gun control area...”

Call your senators now, and tell them to vote no!


45 posted on 02/12/2019 10:29:06 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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