Posted on 01/16/2019 7:34:04 AM PST by 11th_VA
What shutdown?
Agencies have always had the ability to create these plans.
This has nothing to do with the shutdown.
Point being, that 800k not currently being paid doesnt necessarily indicate 800k who arent working or needed and/or generally wanted. There is a lot of deadwood to trim but a lot of it is already funded and being paid, unaffected by the shutdown.
The GOP Congress last session couldnt get the wall funded? Now we have this FUBAR dance with DemRats. Eff them all.
Will watch later, thanks for the link
sorry to burst everyones bubble but while there may be some merit to a RIF in some departments I see no reason for anyone here to get excited over the prospect. Organizations will simply refuse to comply, drag their feet or get a judge in Hawaii to enjoin the process. Believing this will happen is the pipe dream. I dont know the law as well as I should but I doubt it was written with a shutdown furlough in mind. That would be position one in the lawsuit.
“hen, let them collect unemployment benefits and go out and find new work just like everyone else.”
And bye bye accrued retirement benefits and health care.
What do you presume it was written for?
I agree, nothing from DC, even with Trump, comes out as hoped for. But I don’t think that high level official wrote his piece as an empty promise (possible, however, if Trump were still somehow deluded about the Dems).
And if it were written at face value, that would be a position that the Trump team has already heavily polled.
Genius! You magnificent bastard!
This stupid idiot Thomas lifson has been pimping this moronic RIF idea for two days in a row so OMB finally sends out a memo saying he doesnt know what the heck hes talking about. Which he clearly doesnt.
Doesnt stop numerous people just jumping in the bandwagon because they dont know enough about the federal rules aNd just head first for ny conservative columnist.
Mulvaney has been working on major guv downsizing proposals (that of course went nowhere in Congress) for years now. I would imagine he has worked out the mechanisms for getting them enforced internally. I am not aware of Trump still having overtly Never Trumper cabinet officials (Mrs. McConnell, the Chinese agent, of course has her spot still, but she doesn’t resist overtly) at this point either.
I believe Trump chose MulVaney as his Chief of Staff because of his experience at OMB. I’m trusting ‘the plan’
Most likely an organization that had severe enough cuts they actually had to actually furlough people WITHOUT pay. This isnt that. There is/was no doubt that people will get paid when this is over. Budgets are the same and life will get back the way it has after every other shutdown.
Sorry, but 2008-2016 taught me to live with disappointment. I dont see this as any different though for different reasons.
Dems dont give him the wall and he downsizes government. Trump wins.
Sounds like the Gravy Train is coming to the end of it’s run.
End of the Line.
There is NO Plan.
“There is NO Plan.”
How do you know?
OMB has already said the rule doesnt apply to emergency furloughs due to a lapse in appropriations.
OPM’s 2015 guidance on shutdown furloughs also clarifies the matter.
“Reductions in force furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements are not applicable to emergency shutdown furloughs because the ultimate duration of an emergency shutdown furlough is unknown at the outset and is dependent entirely on congressional action, rather than agency action,” OPM guidance reads. “The RIF furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements, on the other hand, contemplate planned, foreseeable, money-saving furloughs that, at the outset, are planned to exceed 30 days.”
Because every predicted Plan for the last two years has never happened. Its all a figment of imagination by wishful thinkers and those who make money by convincing gullible people.
They’ve never had a shutdown at 30 days before.
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