[Phlyer]

. . .secession yet...

New York and California already have,

So has Texas. But all those who talk about that are wrong. The divide is not state-by-state as it was in 1860. The divide is county by county, and basically high-density population versus low-density population.

The author's point is exactly right. This argument is between those who favor individual rights and those who favor government 'management' of everything. And it follows unavoidably that those who live in high-density housing, where everything (food, water, shelter) must be provided - perhaps in return for money, but that just makes it a difference in who you write the check to - a commercial landlord or the government landlord - will vote for socialism. They already live in a 'managed' world so why not let the government manage it . . . hopefully in return for 'free stuff' (paid for by someone else).

Alternatively, those who live in low-density housing must at least do things like cut the grass and shovel snowy sidewalks. They have a linkage between effort and result.

If we have a civil war, it will be disorganized and chaotic, with apartment dwellers roaming single-family-home suburbs looking for loot.

But a 'divorce' is not really possible when the 'other side' may live only a few miles away, with no natural boundaries (e.g. rivers) between them. It's like a divorce in which the splitting couple agree to live in the same house. Every minute of every day is a reminder of the split, and neither party will be able to move on to a new, stable existence.

[central_va]

So has Texas. But all those who talk about that are wrong. The divide is not state-by-state as it was in 1860.

Sure it is. The natural way to divide the USA up into manageable pieces is to first dissolve the union and for state or state(s) to form new federal govts.

[vannrox]

" The divide is county by county, and basically high-density population versus low-density population."

It will be like the Bosnia civil war.



Which was exactly that. Rural vs. Urban.

[Windflier]

The divide is not state-by-state as it was in 1860. The divide is county by county, and basically high-density population versus low-density population.

It's now worse than that. It's down to house by house.

The recent Senate race in Texas proved that to me. Everywhere I went in Dallas County, there were Beto signs intermingled with Cruz signs. I'm talking in the yards of individual residences on the same block.

My town is ostensibly red, but it was the same thing here.

When the SHTF, there's going to be a major sort-out, up close and personal.