29 January - Prime Time!
Democrats in for rough handling!
Posted on 01/06/2019 3:19:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Not really.
$600b of a $17trillion economy is about 3%.
Out of curiosity, who would suffer most from that?
Who would have standing to bring legal action to stop a president from performing his duty to protect this country?
Of course, only the “Hawaii judge”, being sovereign of all, could do that. *sigh*
The total cost to complete the wall is actually $21 Billion. Trump is only asking for $5 Billion out of the current budget.
“what do you think is holding the flashlight?”
Just a pwivate citizen helping out, Bawney Fwank.
Hope so.
Additionally, at least 1/2 of that commerce will be absorbed back into the domestic economies of each side.
The loss would not even come near to approaching the 30%+ loss of activity of the Great Depression.
Red Herring.
That was done on or about Dec. 21 of 2017, and renewed recently.
29 January - Prime Time!
Democrats in for rough handling!
Actually while the govt is partially shut down law suits against government get out on hold. At least when they want it to be.
This would involve DHS border patrol which is impacted by the shut down. So the suit should go no where.
The Dems already have a Hawaiian judge lined up to stop construction of any possible congressionally appropriated wall.
Illegal alien felons have killed seventy thousand American citizens...is it war yet?
Haven’t we been in a constant state of national emergency since 9-11?
“Show the statistics to the American people...”
That has been done ad nauseum for months / years. People, especially Rats, don’t care. Beyond your list, info has been given about human- and sex-trafficking. They still don’t care.
OK then
Dear Dems: The wall first has to be built first, so we can find out if it works. This seems a fitting thing to do as this is how you, Dems, passed & enacted the health care bill. It only seems fair & bipartisan if the wall is built first so we can know for certain if it works or not. <this is not sarcasm
This is all beltway theater. Dems are dug in with an energized base supporting them and top cover from the media. They won’t fold on this. POTUS is hamstrung by the Mueller Coup and doesn’t even have the full support of his own party. So we will get another few weeks of shutdown theater. Then McConnell will shove another pile of garbage spending bill on Trump’s desk and he will sign it. If he doesn’t his veto will be overridden.
I don’t know the answer to your question but i’d wager it’s actually less than the “official” number, with the difference being pocketed by some of these politicians who miraculously become multi-millionaires once in office.
Well, that's not really the question.
I assume that you would have standing to challenge President Kamala Harris when she orders the roundup and summary execution of all FR posters "to protect the country", right?
So the issue isn't the authority to protect the country and who has it, the issue is, if the writ of habeas corpus hasn't been suspended by Congress, then how far does the authority the President has go?
The premise of a lawsuit to stop the wall, which I'm sure is written and ready to file, is that failure of the Executive Branch to carry out its duties to control immigration is NOT a "national emergency" but simple incompetence, and that since Congress has passed legislation which SPECIFICALLY FORBIDS spending money on a wall, that declaring an emergency to do it is simply a ruse.
Look into Youngstown Sheet and Tube v. Sawyer. When President Truman used a national emergency to issue an executive order to send steelworkers back to work to make steel for the armed forces engaged in an actual armed conflict, the US Supreme Court in 1952 overruled him because there was an actual labor dispute underway under the terms of existing legislation, which the EO would prevent from functioning.
I'm sorry but the national emergency thing is not going to work unless it involves the dismissal and probably the arrest of Congress, which would raise a whole bunch of other issues.
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