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So far, so good for legal marijuana sales in Ventura County
Ventura County Star ^ | Jan. 2, 2019 | Christian MartineZ

Posted on 01/03/2019 4:56:50 AM PST by NobleFree

The experiment to sell recreational marijuana in Ventura County has largely been successful if you ask law enforcement officials in both Port Hueneme and Ojai, where the first shops opened legally.

In 2018, California legalized the sale of recreational pot for the first time.

As of Wednesday, 639 medicinal and recreational retailers were licensed to sell cannabis products, according to the state’s Bureau of Cannabis Control. Of those, 38 are recreational, 83 are medicinal, 517 are both and one has no designation.

In Ventura County, the two cities – and seven dispensaries – where sales are permitted have served as test cases for how recreational marijuana could work in the region.

“As far as it goes, it’s been relatively seamless,” said sheriff’s Capt. James Fryhoff, who serves as Ojai’s police chief.

For now, Ojai and Port Hueneme are the only cities in Ventura County to allow recreational marijuana sales.

Recreational and medical marijuana sales are still banned in Oxnard, Camarillo, Santa Paula, Fillmore and Moorpark. A single medical dispensary is due to open in Thousand Oaks in 2019.

The first marijuana stores in Ventura County launched in late January and early February 2018, allowing only medical marijuana sales for the first few months of the year before beginning recreational sales over the summer.

By the end of 2018, four recreational marijuana storefronts were up and running in Port Hueneme and three stores were open in Ojai.

All of Ojai’s marijuana businesses are within walking distance of each other, Fryhoff said, adding that he has not seen an uptick in calls for service in the area.

Port Hueneme Police Chief Andrew Salinas said the four retail shops in his city have not only been safe, but they have also outperformed anticipated sales.

“They are all doing extremely well,” Salinas said.

For 2018, the city was expected to collect nearly $1 million in tax revenue from marijuana sales, exceeding expectations, he said.

Salinas said only 10 percent of the customers purchasing marijuana products originate from Port Hueneme. Approximately 50 percent travel from Oxnard, 15 percent from Camarillo and 10 percent from Ventura, he said. The remaining 15 percent of customers come from various other cities.

Fryhoff did not know where Ojai customers come from but noted that the city is a tourist destination. He said he requested a traffic study to measure the effects of marijuana legalization.

In Port Hueneme, the police chief said recreational marijuana sales have helped the city.

“In terms of traffic and crime, it’s actually cleaned up some areas,” Salinas said.

The presence of armed guards and additional security measures may be deterring some crime, Salinas said. In both cities, retail marijuana shops are required to have armed security on the premises during hours of operation.

Some businesses elect to have a guard nearby 24 hours a day.

In one instance, potential burglars broke a window to attempt to gain entry to a Port Hueneme retail store but were turned away from the business by security cameras, Salinas said.

In both Port Hueneme and Ojai, establishments are required to abide by security protocols established not only by the state, but also by local law enforcement.

In Port Hueneme, for example, security footage from all of the shops must be accessible to Salinas at all times.

In late December, while visiting Skunkmasters, a marijuana shop on North Ventura Road in Port Hueneme, Salinas opened an app on his phone and sorted through different video feeds from other stores in the city.

One feed showed a waiting room filled with customers. Another showed a sales floor.

The access to security footage is department-wide, allowing even officers with smartphones the ability to see events unfolding in real time inside of a shop.

As a result of the interaction between law enforcement and the business operators, both Fryhoff and Salinas said they have cultivated positive relationships with retailers.

“I’m not pro-marijuana, but I’m not anti-business, either,” Fryhoff said. “We want to make sure (the businesses) are not being victimized.”

The communication, he said, helps maintain public safety.

Salinas echoed those sentiments, adding that he entered the legalization process with skepticism and preconceived notions.

“I spent two years as a narcotics officer in Oxnard,” he said. “I have been able to knock down some of these preconceived notions.

“It’s better to embrace it and learn about it,” he said.

Nevertheless, the arena of legal marijuana sales remains a new frontier with many unknowns still to be discovered. As a result, both Fryhoff and Salinas were cautious.

“I’m curious to know what the long-term issues will be,” Fryhoff said. “By next year, we hope to have a better understanding.”

Fryhoff said that while there had been no measurable increase in crime due to the legal marijuana facilities, black-market facilities were still being targeted for robberies.

As of December, Ojai had no plans to add recreational marijuana storefronts.

Port Hueneme, though, was full steam ahead with the industry, with no specific cap yet established on the number of business, according to Salinas. In 2019, the city expects to see at least four additional stores and multiple cultivation and delivery sites, Salinas said.

“As police chief, I’d rather have six or seven highly regulated facilities,” he said. “I would prefer that there be some kind of cap or limit.”

Still, Salinas was enthusiastic about the future of legal marijuana in Port Hueneme. He said he wanted the city to be the model.

The operators of the businesses said they feel similarly.

“We’re not going to be negligent,” said Mark Tatum, manager and operator of Skunkmasters.

“To be on this side of it, to make it work, it’s a beautiful thing,” he said.

Mackenna Bardsley, general manager of From the Earth, which sits only feet away from Skunkmasters, said: “We wanted to make sure we got it right.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cannabis; marijuana; pot; wod

1 posted on 01/03/2019 4:56:50 AM PST by NobleFree
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To: NobleFree

May as well open up a hard drug cafe with hooker waitresses next.


2 posted on 01/03/2019 5:13:55 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: NobleFree

Just you wait ...


3 posted on 01/03/2019 5:27:07 AM PST by QBFimi (It is not your responsibility to finish the work of perfecting the world... Tarfon)
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To: NobleFree

Why would I pay double in a shop when I can get it cheaper on the street or grow it myself?

There is too much empowerment. CA will never allow it.


4 posted on 01/03/2019 5:30:00 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: NobleFree; TheStickman; dainbramaged; beaversmom; T-Bone Texan; dljordan; Mama Shawna; Drew68; ...

For your interest.


5 posted on 01/03/2019 5:37:03 AM PST by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: NobleFree

“I’m curious to know what the long-term issues will be,” Fryhoff said. “By next year, we hope to have a better understanding.”

Shouldn’t colorado and washingtion state give some indication?? What are you smoking dude??.........sheesh.


6 posted on 01/03/2019 5:40:25 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: NobleFree

For now, Ojai and Port Hueneme are the only cities in Ventura County to allow recreational marijuana sales.
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No worries There are a million beaners with a great sales structure in place already at half the price.


7 posted on 01/03/2019 5:49:02 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: NobleFree
"So far, so good"

It's good only if you assume that having a bunch of stoned idiots driving around on your roads is "good".

8 posted on 01/03/2019 6:50:35 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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[from FReepmail:] It is a national malaise, a sickness.

Perhaps - but like Prohibition before it, the "cure" of banning it and driving it into the black market has proved to be worse than the disease.

9 posted on 01/03/2019 7:33:14 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: HighSierra5
May as well open up a hard drug cafe with hooker waitresses next.

We should hold off on considering further drug legalization until we've learned the lessons from marijuana legalization. (But prostitution has always been a matter for the states - apparently Fedzilla has never seen a meaningful opportunity for growing its power there - and Nevada seems to be doing well with legalized regulated prostitution.)

10 posted on 01/03/2019 7:37:17 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: QBFimi; KC_Lion
Just you wait ...

Yes, yes, sooner or later the sky will fall, Chicken Little.

11 posted on 01/03/2019 7:38:26 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: AppyPappy
Why would I pay double in a shop when I can get it cheaper on the street or grow it myself?

The lower the additional cost from taxes and overregulation, the more business will be taken from the cartels, that's for sure.

12 posted on 01/03/2019 7:41:08 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Gateway to the hard stuff brought to you by demonrats and GOP-e.


13 posted on 01/03/2019 7:42:16 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: norwaypinesavage
It's good only if you assume that having a bunch of stoned idiots driving around on your roads is "good".

That happened before legalization too - and it's likely that those who before legalization were responsible enough to avoid the illegal act of possessing pot, will after legalization be responsible enough to avoid the illegal act of driving stoned.

14 posted on 01/03/2019 7:43:11 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: bgill
Gateway to the hard stuff

Nonsense. Most people who use pot don't go on to the hard stuff; with those who do, the sequence can equally well be explained by a general propensity for mind alteration and the greater ease of finding pot; and the same sort of number-crunching that identifies pot as a gateway also does so for alcohol and tobacco.

15 posted on 01/03/2019 7:46:12 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

If the mob bosses who control it want it we will have it.The elected representatives ARE for sale or blackmail.


16 posted on 01/03/2019 7:49:11 AM PST by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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[from FReepmail:] Yes, I agree, we don’t need to be creating El Chapo drug lords.

Good to hear.

I was lamenting the moral decay that creates the massive demand in the first place.

A fair point - but a matter beyond government's control (except to stop making things worse by e.g. driving the breakup of the family through welfare and perverse tax incentives).

We also don’t need a nation of stoners.

We won't get one - any more than legal alcohol has given us a nation of drunks.

Watch TV - at every commercial break there is at least one ad for an addiction clinic.

Marijuana is less addictive than alcohol; the demand you note is fueled more by misuse of prescription opioids.

17 posted on 01/03/2019 7:53:17 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Don Corleone; Ken H
We should hold off on considering further drug legalization until we've learned the lessons from marijuana legalization.

If the mob bosses who control it want it we will have it.The elected representatives ARE for sale or blackmail.

An interesting theory - but the available evidence is against it. Most pot-legalizing states have done so through referendum rather than vote of the legislature, and there's still no real sign of movement by the federal legislature to formally allow state legalization.

18 posted on 01/03/2019 7:57:06 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

I’m in the middle of a project, so this’ll be fast. Here’s what we’ve seen from a Colorado LE perspective:

- For us guys who experimented in the ‘60s, today’s stuff is 20 to 30 times stronger. Doesn’t take much to REALLY fu*k you up. (This is bad for drugbum tourists - we see lots of them at the airport.)

- Today’s “strong!” is not strong enough for serious dopers - they make hash oil. First they rent a house, then spend $10,000 or so for a chemist to set up their little lab and off they go. Things are OK for one or two batches, then they start doing it while high. [cue the Cheech and Chong tape] Boom! If they survive the blast, they appear at the emergency room with their synthetic fabric shirts welded to their body. The taxpayer foots that bill. Their rented house and the two adjacent structures burn to the ground (Outside of the big cities, Colorado has mostly volunteer FDs.)

- I’m in my ‘70s and have severe - bone on bone - arthritis. I’m not in line for the dope - the twenty somethings are, at a time when they should be building a career and a life.

-It has not put the pushers out of business - the high tax rate on legal dope (the government loves that part) allows them to continue to sell high quality stuff at cheaper prices.

Get ready - it’s coming to your state, like it or not. The money’s just too good to not turn down.


19 posted on 01/03/2019 10:00:33 AM PST by QBFimi (It is not your responsibility to finish the work of perfecting the world... Tarfon)
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