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The Boy Scouts’ Bankruptcy Is Not Just Financial. It’s Moral
The Federalist ^ | 01/02/2019 | Alfred Siewers

Posted on 01/02/2019 8:54:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: 17th Miss Regt; 1riot1ranger; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 3catsanadog; 50sDad; Abby4116; ...
"Scouts BSA" ping.

Sad.

41 posted on 01/02/2019 11:55:27 AM PST by Albion Wilde ( "It's a disgrace what's happening in our country; other than that, a very merry Christmas!"--DJT)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yet it was corporate executives and members of the U.S. political establishment (including Scouting leaders such as Rex Tillerson and Robert Gates) on the national board who with progressive staff members agreed to surrender to pressure to sexualize the organization in recent years, despite an earlier hard-fought U.S. Supreme Court victory by the organization to preserve membership rules. In admitting openly gay members and leaders, accepting transgenderism, then admitting girls, Scouting turned its back on a cultural background of Christian teaching on sexuality going back millennia.
42 posted on 01/02/2019 11:57:52 AM PST by Albion Wilde ( "It's a disgrace what's happening in our country; other than that, a very merry Christmas!"--DJT)
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To: Albion Wilde

you are correct.


43 posted on 01/02/2019 12:01:15 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: NRx; lightman; Honorary Serb

Excellent article. Orthodox author.


44 posted on 01/02/2019 12:01:36 PM PST by Albion Wilde ( "It's a disgrace what's happening in our country; other than that, a very merry Christmas!"--DJT)
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To: Alberta's Child

Great timeline. I see Scouting started to collapse precisely when I aged out and went to college. Coincidence? I think not.


45 posted on 01/02/2019 12:13:59 PM PST by sphinx
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To: SeekAndFind
I earned my Eagle at the age of 14. I am a former Marine Platoon Sgt and was a scoutmaster for 15 years. I now have a 9 year old son I will not allow into the org. What a shame.

Morally straight, my ass!

46 posted on 01/02/2019 12:28:31 PM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: Albion Wilde

It was a murder not a suicide


47 posted on 01/02/2019 12:32:20 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Eagle Scouts scare communists....
48 posted on 01/02/2019 12:32:26 PM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: fwdude

my dad’s occupation was professional scout executive, and has undoubtedly been turning in his grave for over a decade due to his organization’s moral failures.


49 posted on 01/02/2019 12:33:04 PM PST by AFPhys ((Liberalism is what Smart looks like to Stupid people - ® - Mia of KC. Rush - 1:50-8/21/15))
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To: AFPhys

Be thankful that he’s not around to see the unchecked perversion that has flooded into Scouting.

And no, I don’t think we’ve seen the bottom yet.


50 posted on 01/02/2019 12:35:07 PM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what it allows with impunity.)
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To: SENTINEL

You bet. I was a scout and Explorer back in the 1970’s.

I was a scout leader while my son worked his way through the Scouts.

We had to go through Virtus training and two deep leadership training. Then they allowed gays into the organization.

The BSA threw all that out the window along with the oath.

They deserve their fate.


51 posted on 01/02/2019 12:43:20 PM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: Albion Wilde; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; ...
Well, yeah. Thanks Albion Wilde.

52 posted on 01/02/2019 12:53:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SamAdams76
I had a good experience scouting during the 1970s, . . . Our summer camp even featured archery and rifle ranges. In the late 1990s, I put my own sons through the program . . . Boys weren't even allowed to carry a pocketknife and the mothers went everywhere with them.

That must not be true for every troop - unless things changed in the 2000's. In the troop my sons belonged to, up to around 4 years ago, their summer camp had archery and rifle ranges. They were encouraged to have pocketknives. (One of my sons brought home a large folding knife from camp once.) And we mothers (mostly) weren't allowed to be as involved as the fathers.

53 posted on 01/02/2019 2:24:47 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: RinaseaofDs
To be precise:

Dr. Alfred Kentigern Siewers is the William E. Simon visiting fellow in religion and public life (2018-2019) at the James Madison Program, Princeton University, and associate professor of English at Bucknell University. He is also reader and warden at Holy Protection Russian Orthodox Mission Church in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania. He teaches and writes on Christian literature and ideas of nature, and on public rhetoric related to secularism and faith. His views are his own.

I don't doubt Dr. Siewers' bona fides aside from Princeton, but anyone who lays in to the Scouts for moral failings while he fiddles from Central NJ's Ivy League HQ seems to have an agenda.

The irony of this situation is that the boys and young men that could benefit MOST from Scouting, i.e., those from single-parent homes, will not "benefit" from Dr. Siewers' alleged wisdom since he's checked out. How sad, in this time and age, when Deplorablism is on the ascent, when we have more in common with a billionaire President from Queens than with the educators down the street, that men of good character are trashing and abandoning perhaps THE single best youth organization when it comes to proper male formation.

Let us not be Pollyanna. There ARE problems with BSA, no doubt about it. And yes, there are other competing clubs that MAY have a thing or two over BSA. But a century of a program that has given us millions of Eagles and even more well-developed males shoulnd't be disposed of because senior management took their eye off the ball and/or demographic changes. Indeed, the BSA attendees to whom Trump spoke in the summer of 2017 totally ATE UP his speech and his message. But then again, the Boy Scouts have been a pernicious antidote to secular modernity for those of us in the know.


54 posted on 01/02/2019 3:05:22 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Tired of Taxes; RinaseaofDs
Many of the most popular Non-Eagle required merit badges involve firearms or knives. Notwithstanding all the hoopla around what's going wrong with BSA, the boys are drawn to the things secular/modern society considers to be "bad."

What more of a vote of confidence does one need?


55 posted on 01/02/2019 3:18:12 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Liz
31 The noted songwriter, Irving Berlin, assigned all the royalties from his popular song, ‘God Bless America’ to the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts. …

How the BSA benefits every time you hear ‘God Bless America’ 2/03/2016
Berlin released “God Bless America” in 1938 (though he had written it two decades earlier). In 1940, he established the God Bless America Fund, setting aside the song’s royalties “for the benefit of the youth of America,” according to this story in The New York Times. The fund’s two major beneficiaries: Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts in New York.

And so, for the past 75 years, every time “God Bless America” has been performed, a portion of the royalties have gone to the Greater New York Councils (which covers the 5 boroughs of NYC) of the Boy Scouts of America.

During the last 5 years of the Cultural Marxism takeover of the BSA I recall reading an article that said that the GBA Fund board of directors were threatening to withhold its customary funding of the BSA if it didn't change its membership rules to permit openly homosexual youths and adults.

56 posted on 01/02/2019 3:22:10 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: DoodleBob
54 There ARE problems with BSA, no doubt about it. … Indeed, the BSA attendees to whom Trump spoke in the summer of 2017 totally ATE UP his speech and his message. But then again, the Boy Scouts have been a pernicious antidote to secular modernity for those of us in the know.

The Head of the Boy Scouts Just Apologized After Trump's National Jamboree Speech

"... I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree. That was never our intent. The invitation for the sitting U.S. President to visit the National Jamboree is a long-standing tradition that has been extended to the leader of our nation that has had a Jamboree during his term since 1937. It is in no way an endorsement of any person, party or policies. For years, people have called upon us to take a position on political issues, and we have steadfastly remained non-partisan and refused to comment on political matters. We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program."

57 posted on 01/02/2019 3:29:06 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

Many of us regarded that “apology” as we regarded Obama’s 8-year apology/Presidency.


58 posted on 01/02/2019 3:34:06 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Albion Wilde
42 Yet it was corporate executives and members of the U.S. political establishment (including Scouting leaders such as Rex Tillerson and Robert Gates) on the national board who with progressive staff members agreed to surrender to pressure to sexualize the organization in recent years …


59 posted on 01/02/2019 4:34:52 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: DoodleBob

Boys need action and adventure (and so do some of us girls).

If boys don’t experience action and adventure through something like scouting, they might look for it somewhere else, sometimes in the wrong places.


60 posted on 01/02/2019 4:50:48 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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