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ABC video of Stoneham Douglas Shooting - newscast
ABC ^ | December 2018 | ABC news

Posted on 12/30/2018 6:26:48 AM PST by Triple

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To: Triple

Interesting the still from the surveillance footage does not show his face. No question he is wearing a backpack in one image and a tactical vest in another image.


21 posted on 12/30/2018 7:46:16 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: pepsionice

In the Aurora-Holmes case, there were early reports of a second shooter with tactical gear on.


22 posted on 12/30/2018 7:48:21 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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To: Triple

There was a report that teacher(s) thought the POS Cruz was police (actually WATCHING him change INTO gear) and it was all a drill. I don’t know what real or fake news is anymore. Every school shooting aftermath is controlled by the media and government.


23 posted on 12/30/2018 8:08:36 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: pepsionice

The guy in Dallas who was shooting cops and others


24 posted on 12/30/2018 8:15:55 AM PST by Nifster (II see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: thoughtomator

I remember this being brought up, but it was limited to two witnesses who spoke to two people.

I’ve noticed on a lot of shootings (even in Germany), there’s always a report or two of multiple shooters. And in most ALL cases, it’s just one single person.


25 posted on 12/30/2018 8:16:40 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: jacknhoo

Plants are everywhere......here and other good conservative sites.....Count on it


26 posted on 12/30/2018 8:18:08 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: JonPreston
"Israel & the FIB. Their effort worked."

Only worked in the short term. Even the parent of one of the victims knows whose at fault here. Sheriff Israel, The superintendent of the School district and the FBI are covered in blame.

27 posted on 12/30/2018 8:24:13 AM PST by wmileo
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To: dforest
"I am bothered that someone saw him carrying a rifle bag prior to the shooting."

That someone was a typical Broward County High School Student. He could have tackled the shooter right there in the hallway but didn't. Maybe we should question him as to why he did nothing knowing a disaster was about to take place.

28 posted on 12/30/2018 8:31:47 AM PST by wmileo
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To: trebb

“not enough info to start a conspiracy that indicates the guy who obviously shot didn’t do the shooting”

The Tenth Man Rule (World War Z)

“The Israeli military does indeed have a similar doctrine but it is not called the 10th man doctrine.”

” After the Yom Kippur War (1973), the IDF’s Intelligence Directorate created a Red Team, a devil’s advocate team that can challenge prevalent assumptions within intelligence bodies.”

“The unit’s tag line is based on the classic “He who dares, wins” used by the SAS, and changed to “He who thinks, wins”. The unit is also referred to occasionally as “Ipcha Mistabra”, an Aramaic term popular in the Jewish Talmud that means “on the contrary, it appears that …“”

Investigate ALL possibilities, or you can stick your head in the sand or up your A$$. You choose.


29 posted on 12/30/2018 9:25:08 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: archy

Please take a look...any thoughts on this video/story?


30 posted on 12/30/2018 9:25:57 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: wmileo

“...He could have tackled the shooter right there in the hallway but didn’t. Maybe we should question him as to why he did nothing knowing a disaster was about to take place.” [wmileo, post 28]

Nobody “knew” a disaster was about to happen. Certainly not any of the students. The “warning signs” were not that obvious. They never are.

Some forum members here might - might - identify a “rifle bag” on sight , but it’s less likely that “a typical Broward County High School Student” could do so. Besides, seeing a padded soft-side gun case cannot tell you what’s inside it.

Students today are trained from kindergarten (or earlier) on up, never to defend themselves - not even in the most innocuous playground scuffle. People caught in a violent incident revert to their training.

It takes courage, on top of training, for a fully armed soldier to get up, break cover, and charge into hostile fire. Not very likely that a high schooler would spontaneously find that sort of courage. And counterattacking - barehanded - a perp shooting at you with a rifle might demand a bit more courage.

All high schoolers are carefully, meticulously trained to be the exact opposite of courageous.


31 posted on 12/30/2018 10:00:51 AM PST by schurmann
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32 posted on 12/30/2018 10:36:07 AM PST by 4Liberty ("The Democrats are the Party of Crime." - Donald J. Trump)
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To: faucetman
Too funny - all this because a video from several sources, so it isn't 100% straight through, seems to show the guy with a backpack and no obvious vest early on, and then has a vest later (which from the video, could have been on from the get-go) and everyone has an itch for something really bad to have occurred so they jump the shark over one FReeper's post......

How about you hit the "Donate" button to start the New Year off right or maybe you can shove your opinion where your thoughts come from????

33 posted on 12/31/2018 2:19:22 AM PST by trebb (Put your money where your mouth is - or be deemed "empty hot air worthless")
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To: trebb

Just keep lapping up the narrative the msm feeds you. Don’t worry your little head over changing kits or other inconsistencies.

They are just inconvenient details that can and should be ignored.

Trust me!

/sheep herder


34 posted on 12/31/2018 6:18:12 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

What do you do when you catch them sheep you herd? Baaaaa!


35 posted on 12/31/2018 8:41:59 AM PST by trebb (Put your money where your mouth is - or be deemed "empty hot air worthless")
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To: trebb

Just keep lapping up what the msm serves you without questioning, and you might find out. (but not from me, I’m ok with you doing you, as long as you let me be me.)


36 posted on 12/31/2018 11:28:20 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

I only heed the advice and opinions of those who pay their way - the rest may as well be libs or illegal invaders who prefer to use services pothers pay for.


37 posted on 01/01/2019 2:50:58 AM PST by trebb (Put your money where your mouth is - or be deemed "empty hot air worthless")
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To: Triple
It Implies that the steps were 1. prep in stairwell 2. shoot in hallway.

They even change the order of the "freshman" passing Cruz.

The video is all hacked up.

38 posted on 01/02/2019 11:08:10 AM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: trebb

Good ideas - they only come from *your* circle of friends...

Yeah, riiiight...keep thinking that.


39 posted on 01/08/2019 5:13:01 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

Spoken like a true Leftist leech - I have to assume you have no angst about illegals coming in and using your tax dollars for services you and the rest of us pay for....what is the difference between them leeches and those who use FR w/o donating to keep the bills paid? I can’t see any but perhaps you can let me in on that magical secret....


40 posted on 01/08/2019 8:21:06 AM PST by trebb (Put your money where your mouth is - or be deemed "empty hot air worthless")
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