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To: Mafe

“A simple accusation from a family member, friend, or associate will suffice to seize someone’s firearms.”

Even the draconian CA law restricts the petitioners to LEO and Family, and they must present “clear and convincing evidence the person is a danger to themselves and/or others”.

I’m thinking the author is a tad bit hyperbolic.


9 posted on 12/26/2018 2:50:54 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
I’m thinking the author is a tad bit hyperbolic.

Not in the slightest way.

"Clear and convincing evidence" is whatever the Judge says it is. And Law Enforcement Officers can say anything they want to say.

These laws are designed for ever-widening interpretation that will justify firearms confiscation from anybody that the Government finds inconvenient.

23 posted on 12/26/2018 3:48:14 PM PST by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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To: Mariner

Look at blue states’ (for now) Red Flag laws. They are pretty liberal as to who can make a denunciation of a gun owner’s supposed mental state and it does not have to be family or someone under the same roof.

The worst part about Red Flag is that false official statements are no longer treated as felony perjury. The penalty for doing so now is a simple misdemeanor. In other words, snitches are encouraged to turn in their neighbors. Snitches like your liberal neighbor or disgruntled ex who can under the new law reach out and seriously hurt someone.

“He voted for Trump so he must be crazy and dangerous”.

As noted, “clear and convincing evidence” is whatever an Obama judge says it is.

Confining knowledge of your guns to as few as possible used to be a matter of physical security. Now it may help prevent your being labeled an enemy of the people.

This is the gungrabbers’ Holy Grail: to make gun ownership socially undesirable just as Eric Holder intends, and to make gun owners suspect in the eyes of those around them.


27 posted on 12/26/2018 4:23:09 PM PST by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
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To: Mariner

Nope. The author is entirely correct !

Already accepted in probably every stat is the ‘protective order’

Under the Brady law, a clause allows your guns to be taken if some files for a protective order.

Technically, even if the State reminds the order you cannot get your rights restored under Federal law because there are not legal paths to do so. Although currently most Statea ignore that provision on a rescinded order.

A friend got divorced. The ex filed for a protective order. The Sheriff came the next day and picked up his guns.

It took him months to regain his firearms.

The camels nose is already well, well under the tent.


28 posted on 12/26/2018 4:41:52 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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